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Old 07-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Sean
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Re: GWB hates women
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Originally Posted by dubman View Post
how about "supple" instead of firm. or how about "indifference to fetuses is different from my attitiude towards babies, which is generally favorable yet the idea that they should come at the expense of someones well-being is exteremly questionable." how about "that's a dumb thing to say"
How about "full sentences"?

But more importantly, why do you feel that you deserve the consideration of a detailed, thoughtful statement like defining your position as: "indifference to fetuses is different from my attitiude towards babies, which is generally favorable yet the idea that they should come at the expense of someones well-being is exteremly questionable", yet someone with a differing viewpoint from you deserves nothing more than a thoughtless "they hate women"? What glaring hypocrisy! Why can't you see that it's equally fair for a pro-lifer to say: "indifference to women's abortion rights is different from my attitude towards women, which is generally favorable yet the idea that they should have these rights at the expense of an unborn baby's well-being is exteremly questionable"?

As for "that's a dumb thing to say" - I agree. And it's exactly comparable to what you're saying when you conclude that anti-abortion advocates inherently hate women.

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your plain and simple points are "dancing around" an issue that is neither plain or simple in its effects (though plain and simple in motivation). you're just engaging in more distraction like any other politics forum does.
Well one, we're not talking about every single aspect of the abortion issue here....we're only talking about the fundamentally flawed conclusion that opposition to abortion denotes hatred of women, which I've been directly addressing all along. So what exactly I'm "distracting" us from is a mystery to me. The accusation that legislation against birth control equals hatred of women is not a logical, objective progression of thoughts, and you've said nothing to prove otherwise.

If I oppose the idea of affirmative action, does that mean I hate minorities? If I support it, does that mean I hate whites? If I support a ban on guns, does that mean I hate hunters? If I support same-sex marriage, does that mean I hate the institution of marriage? If I oppose same-sex marriage, does that mean I hate gay people? If I don't like country-western music, does that mean I think Garth Brooks is a terrible person?
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