Another one o' them smoking ban threads....

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Originally Posted by cacophony

personally i find it a little amusing that you pissed on sarcasmo's service then chose to announce your own low-risk acts of selflessness to illustrate what a good person you are.

Let's be real...While I do appreciate Sarcasmo's service, and I'm glad I was not drafted because he volunteered, military service is not exactly charity and there are very real socioeconomic gains that can be made for putting your life on the line in the military. Granted those are just incentives, but it is not totally selfless. If Sarcasm's service is totally selfless in nature, as a individual, then I do applaud that.

Originally Posted by cacophony

do you or do you not think a person's chance of survival in this world should depend on his or her ability to pay?

I believe health starts with the individual's ability, whether based on upbringing or information acquisition, to keep themselves from falling into illness. Then, if that step has been bypassed or ignored, that little bill we use to quantify workmanship and effort in this society, personal wealth can be used to make up for those shortcomings. Finally, if money and giving-a-fuck (ignorance is no excuse) are both absent, hopefully the less fortunate can rely on the personal charity of hospital, doctor, or peer to prevent their mistakes as individuals from catching up to them.

Originally Posted by cacophony

do you think health is a fundamental human right?

Good health is a fundamental human privilege, and I have a constitutional right to not be forced into charity. Killing someone is unconstitutional, letting someone die is not.