single 'Ring Road' will be released on 7th July 2008

[Dino3D]

Can anybody upload the video to YouTube?

[khouri]

It's true, open discussion of music piracy is certain to give any recording artist pause.

However, we're talking about a band who routinely refuses to make available to its fans material we are literally BEGGING to pay money for, and in a variety of formats. The "Sunshine" soundtrack springs immediately to mind, not to mention the Live in Tokyo album when it was first released, this new Japan-only product, numerous singles, remixes and of course out-of-print music. Hell, there is an entire thread dedicated to the problems people are having with trying desperately to buy official live albums -- that all quite similar to one another, I might add.

If Underworld are indeed concerned about piracy, they have every right to be. But if so, I think they ought to consider this particular fan base and give their release strategies a second thought.

[potatobroth]

these are all great points on both sides of the argument. I've always wondered myself if we are the vocal majority or minority when it comes to promises: "I'd absolutely buy that if they released it!!!" Are we really speaking for the majority here? Does UW/music-industry have data to support the opposite? Nothing would be worse than to release a Japan-only tune and have 30 online sales from underworldlive.com but see a thread of 500 people talking about downloading it.

[big screen satellite]

seriously i think we've gotten off the track and started beating down on UW unfairly

i've never been happy about the release policy in japan - but many bands have different release strategies for different territories... if you are an uber fan that is one of the pit falls...

Coupled with that though, i've never been unhappy with the way Underworld have and always do look after their fans, especially the regular forum posters...

i mean whats happening later today at 6pm??

Underworld, off their own back are sitting down in a studio and playing 2+ hours worth of music (most likely to include some unheard of jems) mainly for people who drop by here reguarly

not everything is clear, release policies and costs may well influence these decisions, and before we bash the boys, i think we will get more and more product available digitally over the coming months... so patience my friends

and to blame the 'live here now' issue on UW is unfair, as is the release of the sunshine soundtrack, which is owned by a different corporation

slating the band themselves won't get stuff released...

[Futuregrapher]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

i mean whats happening later today at 6pm??

I agree with everything you just said.

BUT I must correct you. The show is tomorrow, not today.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by Futuregrapher

I agree with everything you just said.

BUT I must correct you. The show is tomorrow, not today.

lol, i'm thinking its wednesday already.... oops..

what day is it today...???

[negative1]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

seriously i think we've gotten off the track and started beating down on UW unfairly

there are legitimate complaints in here..

i've never been happy about the release policy in japan - but many bands have different release strategies for different territories... if you are an uber fan that is one of the pit falls...

so we're just supposed to accept it? and change will
never happen?

Coupled with that though, i've never been unhappy with the way Underworld have and always do look after their fans, especially the regular forum posters...

i mean whats happening later today at 6pm??

Underworld, off their own back are sitting down in a studio and playing 2+ hours worth of music (most likely to include some unheard of jems) mainly for people who drop by here reguarly

apples and oranges, no ones complaining that underworld isn't
doing enough to give us music, its the methodology
and inconsistency thats the issue..

not everything is clear, release policies and costs may well influence these decisions, and before we bash the boys, i think we will get more and more product available digitally over the coming months... so patience my friends

speculation doesn't help either, until its said and done..

and to blame the 'live here now' issue on UW is unfair, as is the release of
the sunshine soundtrack, which is owned by a different corporation
slating the band themselves won't get stuff released...

no, in this case, it is clearly their fault also...why would
you partner with someone that has obviously dropped
the ball repeatedly, and at great expense.....no, they
need to step up and admit its not working, or take
steps to fix things...yes, liveherenow did FINALLY get
their act together, but after how long? and how much
prompting? is this professional?

and before all of you start complaining about me, and the
complexities, etc,...etc....i worked with KMFDM and their
official site for a couple of years, we were a small outfit,
and ok, so they don't have a huge fanbase, but they did
have a vocal and faithful following, we were running the
merchandise out of my friends house, we did all the
packing ourselves, shipping, etc...we made sure each
and every customer was happy, we checked every order,
and we also threw in a ton of free stuff......and guess
what, our budget wasn't much either...but we did add
digital downloads, free fanshows, free passes, and a ton
of other things just for the fans...so i know it can be
done....and yes, we were in touch with sascha, and brute,
and did consult people about all the decisions concerning
artwork, releases, singles, digital stuff etc.......

i know yannick is doing an awesome job, and so is ant, steve,
and of course the group.....but sometimes you need
to step back, and reevaluate where you're going, and
see if it is right/wrong, and admit when things go wrong, and
change it to something better...

later
-1

[jose m]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

these are all great points on both sides of the argument. I've always wondered myself if we are the vocal majority or minority when it comes to promises: "I'd absolutely buy that if they released it!!!" Are we really speaking for the majority here? Does UW/music-industry have data to support the opposite? Nothing would be worse than to release a Japan-only tune and have 30 online sales from underworldlive.com but see a thread of 500 people talking about downloading it.

Mmmmmm????

[Dino3D]

There's just 1 week left, and no official cover art or tracklist. What's going on?? I pre-ordered it from HMV, but I don't think, It will release next week.

Myspace has a 12" tracklist, and an image (but not cover), but no infos from the CD.

[Dino3D]

Seems here is the artwork:

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProduct...;-1&sku=824046

and here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNDERWORLD-Rin...3286.m63.l1177

And the 12":

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/318595-01.htm

Not bad, but would like better a b/w pic.