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Old 04-19-2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: Ring Road - Fake Blood Remix - Underworldlive.com
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guys... come on... seriously is there a written formula that says we cannot use samples from the past....?

some of us like this mix, some don't - its like almost all remixes every released.... some people like them and others don't
oh but this isnt just the mild disappointment that comes with nearly every remix ever.
this is flat out, out and out, inexcusably bad. not just something to ignore and pretend it never happened but to actually wonder what in the fuck happened here
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:21 PM
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I agree with dubman. I have complete confidence that I could make a better remix than this.
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Ring Road - Fake Blood Remix - Underworldlive.com
Where did he sample the "wah-aaaaaaa" sound at 8s from?
I remember hearing it on a bootleg before... For example it's on Born Slippy NUXX from Reading 1996 at 13:30 shortly before the slow Rez intro begins.
By sampling that obscure UW sound alone he deserves my respect.

But I like the track anyway. As a simple statement of liking this track or not doesn't seem to satisfy some members I'd like to give some reasons:
- great use of samples. IMO the think break fits perfectly. In general I find nothing wrong or cliched with sampling. YMMV.
- exceptional use of Karl's vocals. I think it's very unusual and funny how he cut them up instead of just playing it back.
- great bass line which is modified and filtered throughout the song.
- a well thought out structure that shows that he actually cared and didn't just take a bar and loop it for 8 minutes.
- the mood. I don't see anything embarrassing in it. It doesn't always have to be the standard UW-'dark and long'-atmosphere.
conclusion: an unusual Underworld remix for sure, but I think it's a great one.

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what in the fuck happened here
Please, I don't understand why anyone could dislike this track. Could you explain? I've never seen such a hatred against a song before, and I'm curious what the reasons for your emotional behaviour are.
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best thing to do is put up the elements of the track on uw live and get the guys here to mix it up -
Yay, a remix competition! Please UW, put some samples up!
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: Ring Road - Fake Blood Remix - Underworldlive.com
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Where did he sample the "wah-aaaaaaa" sound at 8s from?
I remember hearing it on a bootleg before... For example it's on Born Slippy NUXX from Reading 1996 at 13:30 shortly before the slow Rez intro begins.
By sampling that obscure UW sound alone he deserves my respect.
Nah, it's in the original Ring Road at 2:38.

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Yay, a remix competition! Please UW, put some samples up!
Yeah, they should pull a Trent Reznor. At least with one of the tracks, and see how it works out.

As for my $0.02, the remix has grown on me, after my initial disliking reaction. It's not too bad. I do wish we could get another Remix/B-side EP in the vein of Dark & Long and Pearl's Girl.

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Old 04-19-2008, 05:26 PM
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Nah, it's in the original Ring Road at 2:38.
... shows how little I listen to Ring Road. Still a pretty old sample though...
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Old 04-19-2008, 05:48 PM
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Please, I don't understand why anyone could dislike this track. Could you explain? I've never seen such a hatred against a song before, and I'm curious what the reasons for your emotional behaviour are.
you're implying that i'm having an irrational reaction
this is not the case
let's do a play by play

intro: wrong foot already. while not bad all on its own, this sort of looped-up intro immediately signifies bad times to come. the dregs of awful club music so depressing that it sucks the will out of you. maybe it's not even euro; i could hear this on hit stations here, late at night when they all roll out their putrid "club mixes" of popular songs so bad that i fall into a resentful and protracted sourness.

from then on it fulfills its potential and skips into this lazy mix of the most ill-conceived bass, handclaps, pads, and as a final piece of this enormous terror cake, an inexplicable addition of the woefully overused lyn collins sample.

then the vocal samples kick in, and it's possibly the stupidest, most asinine thing you could do with them, crassly looping snatches together to vaguely encourage joe dickhead to bobble about and get away with it. assorted distracted samples fly in and out in a procession of foul taste and bad decisions and, in a nutshell, it's everything awful the early 90s had to offer in terms of dance music.

if i wanted dumb house i can listen to Hostage, at least his kind of wanton stupidity has the sense to have some weight behind it and be pretty fun instead of this Virgin Megastore fodder. this is like the pork rinds you find in the back of convenience stores: empty calories, weightless, and tastes bad to boot.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:05 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about one thing that annoyed me about the Fake Blood remix. I really dislike that high pitched "ahhhh, yeah!" or is it "whooo, yeah!" sample; it is not fit for any Underworld song.
To clarify my previous statement, I don't mind sampling. There is just something about this particular sound that annoys me as I have heard it way too many times and I guess I expect better from and Underworld song. Maybe it's because I associate this particular sample with generic electronic music, and consider Underworld to be better than that.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:11 AM
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To clarify my previous statement, I don't mind sampling. There is just something about this particular sound that annoys me as I have heard it way too many times and I guess I expect better from and Underworld song. Maybe it's because I associate this particular sample with generic electronic music, and consider Underworld to be better than that.

ok, now this is really scary..

go back and listen to the last 50 seconds of 'the hump'
heres a clip:http://www.zshare.net/audio/108458097b7b57eb/


its one of those clangy,bells, whoop-whoop, whew, huh,
kind of endings with all those samples we hate so much........
could it have been intentional? (nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

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Old 04-20-2008, 11:11 AM
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Re: Ring Road - Fake Blood Remix - Underworldlive.com
that lynn collins sample has been in some classic tracks tho hasn't it?
rob base and dj ez rock "it takes two" "salsa house" richie rich and more recently "pussy hole" dizzie rascal. don't knock the sample,its a corner stone of dance music !
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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Re: Ring Road - Fake Blood Remix - Underworldlive.com
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ok, now this is really scary..

go back and listen to the last 50 seconds of 'the hump'
heres a clip:http://www.zshare.net/audio/108458097b7b57eb/


its one of those clangy,bells, whoop-whoop, whew, huh,
kind of endings with all those samples we hate so much........
could it have been intentional? (nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

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I don't mind those as I haven't heard them in a million other songs. (at least that I can recall)

As I mentioned in your remix retrospective thread, I like The Hump Wild Beasts. I probably still would like it the same without that part at the end. I don't really like Ring Road Fake Blood, and doubt my opinion on it would change if it didn't use the "ah, yeah" sample. It's a pet peeve I guess.
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