U.S. Presidential Election 2008

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

Here? In America? Oh no, never.

That's funny....I don't recall saying it "never" happens. Why don't you go ahead and argue your stance based on evidence rather than purely on sarcasm. I believe that I made my points based on a reasonable stance that the coverage is driven by ratings in this particular case, so perhaps you can explain why you think otherwise in a substantive way.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by Sean

In fairness, I don't personally feel that there's significant partisan intent in the coverage of the candidates. What I do feel is that they go for whatever the most sensational story is, and I guess a Presidential candidate's ex-pastor shouting "god damn America" is more sensational than a chief strategist pushing deals that are counter to what the candidate they represent supports is. Doesn't much matter which is more pertinent to the actual Presidential race. And as for McCain, I think it's safe to say that he's getting ignored because there's no drama around him right now. I really doubt that political agendas are driving the lack of coverage.

hear hear.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by Sean

That's funny....I don't recall saying it "never" happens. Why don't you go ahead and argue your stance based on evidence rather than purely on sarcasm. I believe that I made my points based on a reasonable stance that the coverage is driven by ratings in this particular case, so perhaps you can explain why you think otherwise in a substantive way.

In time.

[Strangelet]

Incidentally, clinton's campaign team is infested with columbian trade lobbyists.

To help make its case, Colombia had already hired at least three firms on Capitol Hill, in addition to the work by Mr. Penn’s firm, Burson-Marsteller....


....They include the Glover Park Group, the fast-growing firm set up by former Clinton White House aides including Joe Lockhart, who was chief spokesman for the president. (Howard Wolfson, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign communications director, was a partner at the firm but has taken a leave of absence.) ....


....The ties between the lobbying firms and the Clinton campaign illustrate the complexity of Washington’s political world, where players are often switching positions or playing multiple roles. While Mr. Wolfson has taken a leave from Glover Park, for example, he still has equity in the firm valued at $500,000 to $1 million, according to a disclosure form.


A long list of former Clinton administration aides, including Mack McLarty, the former counsel to the president; Donna E. Shalala, the health and human services secretary; and Leon E. Panetta, the onetime chief of staff, also have come out in support of the deal. It puts them in alliance with Mr. Bush and Republican leaders.

maybe this is what John Edwards was talking about when he said we needed to do more than replace republican corporatism with democrat corporatism.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

Incidentally, clinton's campaign team is infested with columbian trade lobbyists.



maybe this is what John Edwards was talking about when he said we needed to do more than replace republican corporatism with democrat corporatism.

I think you're missing the real point though, Strangelet. Elton John cleared it all up for me when he said of Hillary's dwindling support that "I never cease to be amazed at the misogynist attitude of some of the people in this country".

So now I finally understand that my dislike of Hillary has nothing to do with her continuous lies about her experience, or her calling for the people's voices to be heard only when it will benefit her personally, or her dirty campaign tactics that aim to destroy her fellow Democratic candidate, or her campaign that's been mismanaged so badly that it makes me wonder how she could possibly manage a country, or her chief campaign strategist who was actively pushing trade deals she says she opposes......no, it's actually because I'm a misogynist. Thanks for helping me understand myself, Elton.

[cacophony]

to be fair, i made that point long before elton.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by cacophony

to be fair, i made that point long before elton.

I remember...

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Sean

I think you're missing the real point though, Strangelet. Elton John cleared it all up for me when he said of Hillary's dwindling support that "I never cease to be amazed at the misogynist attitude of some of the people in this country".

Crap!!! my mysoginitis is raging again! thanks for pointing that out. i gotta go tell my wife what's happened so she can blame something besides my just being a jackass.

[Deckard]

Why did you guys let him in? WHY?!

Candle in the Wind must surely be worse than - what was it? - moral turpitude?

[gambit]

So if people vote for Obama because they're mysoginists, then do people vote for Hillary because they're racists????