Burial

[Lx_Nen]

Originally Posted by LX_Nen

I didn't say I could do it well, I just said I could do it

Originally Posted by LX_Nen

I didn't say I could do it well, I just said I could do it

Originally Posted by LX_Nen

I didn't say I could do it well, I just said I could do it

Originally Posted by LX_Nen

I didn't say I could do it well, I just said I could do it

Originally Posted by LX_Nen

I didn't say I could do it well, I just said I could do it

...and I'll stick by it. Any fool, including me can make a track that sounds like Burial. I did put my money where my mouth is, by making a track and posting it.

Nobody is seriously going to suggest that my first go at it is anywhere near as good as Burial, but I don't think anyone can deny that it does sound like Burial. Burial on a bad day, or the bottom ranked track in the shortlist of 100 he had for his first album maybe, but none the less I think it does sound like Burial, and with more appropriate sample choice, it will sound even more like him next time.

[dubman]

again, i think he's wrong. but he not only asserted but did what he thought was an approximate imitation of a burial track, and us two happen to vehemently disagree. BUT, instead of just going with the comment, you took the failure of his effort to completely discredit it, whereas other people might say the same thing and be able to argue about it a bit better without fumbling it like he did.
but it wasnt even adressed. i didnt *really* care about the ensuing tete-a-tete until that horrid "YOU CANT DO IT SO SHUT UP IT GOT POPULAR" train of thought was brought up, which is both funny and sad enough to ask that if you're going to be a dick, then do it without looking whiny too.
and now the sneaking suspicion of devolving discussion can't really be ignored at this point.

i know kid cue hates it, and i know it says how my sense of patience and anticipation have been erased by years of being spoiled by leaks, but the best way to pick up the p[eices in this thread and make everyone happy is if this album leaked NAO.

[BrotherLovesDub]

the idea that any form of electronic music can be made by any fool or that it's the samples that should take the credit, not the artist, are old, tired and insulting comments that sound like they're coming from a rockist/rock fan's perspective. if you think anyone can make the same stuff and it's just a matter of picking good samples, you're confused. electronic music is not 100% reliant on the software and the samples. to believe so is to be fooling yourself. what's the difference between saying that and saying, oh, i just bought a guitar and i'll be able to replicate The Edge or Hooky in no time?

if you believe you can replicate Burial with your gear, do you also believe you can imitate great guitarists or drummers if you had their same kit? there's no difference in my mind.

[kid cue]

Originally Posted by Lx_Nen

My point was that anyone could make the same sort of soundscapes as Burial, not that anyone could be as good as Burial.

i'm not sure why this is an interesting or significant point...?

The next stage for me is to make another one of these tracks, but with the handmade timings explained in the article and some suitable 2step/uk garage samples (not genres I'm very familiar with, so please bare with me while I find some), and see how much of the magic is Burial, and how much is Burial's samples. I'm still linterested in finding out the answer to the question I posed earlier - is Burial good because he's in a field of his own, or is he good despite being in a field of his own?

this seems very simple. some people have an ear (eye, whatever) for beauty that others don't. their technique and reference points are independent factors. for those of us who know the history of the music Burial is referencing, that adds a lot, but it doesn't change the fact that the music is clearly emotional and well-thought out. re: technique, if you listen to "Unite," which was made in Logic and not SoundForge, you'll find that it's as good as anything else he has done. i'm not sure why you are on a detective mission to answer a bogus question.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Lx_Nen

it is all just samples + covering up the mismatches with crackles and reverb.

Any fool can do it. Even a middle aged white suburban bloke like me.

it's easy! it's just samples, crackles and reverb. any fool can do it.

[Leon]

Why can't we just share the love for Burial music. Somehow I really don't care how it's made, or how easy it's made: Burial grabs me, and I like teh music. So there.
Please waste your time on something else than acting like smart asses and argueing over nothing.

[Tom]

Fuck you Leon I'll murk you blud.

Lx_Nen made a dumb statement and was called on it.

BLD is a wanker, but he's right.

Dubman has a crush on BLD.

kid cue is hot.

I'm going to get drunk and listen to those samples for a few hours.

[dubman]

who am i kidding...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...a6799100-1.jpg

[Tom]

lol gg



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[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Tom

Fuck you Leon I'll murk you blud.

Lx_Nen made a dumb statement and was called on it.

BLD is a wanker, but he's right.

Dubman has a crush on BLD.

kid cue is hot.

I'm going to get drunk and listen to those samples for a few hours.

wow. nicely done tom.