Marie-Antoinette - a new film by Sofia Coppola

[grady]

Originally Posted by mmm skyscraper

song/scene speculation

The Perfect Kiss - during the kissing scene obviously
World - during the end of the movie
Thieves Like Us - Peasant side story

I was thinking a bit similar too..

The Perfect Kiss - obviously a kissing as you speculate mmm skyscraper, but it's probably around the time of a first meeting at a ball between dunst and schwartzmen

Your Silent Face - during some happy go lucky things are good time of the film, before the badness starts.

Love Vigilantes - more of the same as described above, but this time, everyone is having fun riding around on horse back and playing and having a good time.

Thieves Like Us - the double cross love affair part of the story.

True Faith - the big come down when things go to shit.

Paradise - another song that could be used when things start down the bad path.

what song would be ideal to end the film? hmmm........possible even Paradise.

[grady]

Originally Posted by m.g.

they were, they were... (absolutely not possible to shoot in Versailles if you're not fully prepared/covered/allowed/insured, etc...), but french gov. was very very... mmm... nice with the time allowed & the fees... and apparently Ms. Director was very... "temperamental" with quite everyone most of the time...

ah, I was wondering about that. Of course, the 'temperamental' director too. I wonder how old Ron Howard behaved around the Louvre shooting the Da Vinci Code. I was still surprised they allowed the film access to the Louvre.

[m.g.]

Originally Posted by grady

I wonder how old Ron Howard behaved around the Louvre shooting the Da Vinci Code.

he behaved very well apparently...

Originally Posted by grady

I was still surprised they allowed the film access to the Louvre.

only during nights & closing days + very very high fees & insurances...

[m.g.]

Just to "revive" this thread... I just saw the film (as we are lucky enough that they released it here on the same day as in Cannes festival) and...

*** NO (REAL) SPOILER HERE ***

... this is not a "usual" or a normal historical movie and this is not really a movie about Marie Antoinette in the french history or about Versailles in the pre-revolution 18th century or...

Sofia Coppola just did for the 3rd time the "same film again"... a girl (or a group of girls, like in The Virgin Suicides) who's literally thrown a bit brutally or unexpectedly in a city/country/period of time/etc that she doesn't understand, where she doesn't know how to behave or where she doesn't have the clues and the rules. And, even if most of all the historical details are faithfully respected, the point is quite exclusively centred on "this" girl and how she will try to cope (or not...) with everybody and everyting around her.

Everything "technical" (cast, locations, costumes, light, editing, design, etc...) is perfect, and the soundtrack listing is just amazing and very carefully chosen (and it's very interesting to see how important can be the music in a film, specially when it's New Order or Aphex Twins used over an 18th century background).

If you are a bit bored by all these Da Vinci, X-Men 23 or Mission Impossible 48 that you can see by dozens every week, if you want to see a very brilliantly directed movie, if you are interested in human behaviour (as opposed to special effects or any kind of weapons...) or if you want to see an unusual way how to film this kind of stories, than Marie Antoinette will definitely be a good and enriching choice.

Don't miss it when it'll be out somewhere close you and don't listen/read too much to critics... (very often just a bunch of jealous/frustrated people who dreamed about directing movies and never could... )

Ah... one last thing, Kirsten Dunst is absolutely magic and touched by grace here...

[mmm skyscraper]

Originally Posted by m.g.

If you are a bit bored by all these Da Vinci, X-Men 23 or Mission Impossible 48 that you can see by dozens every week, if you want to see a very brilliantly directed movie, if you are interested in human behaviour (as opposed to special effects or any kind of weapons...) or if you want to see an unusual way how to film this kind of stories, than Marie Antoinette will definitely be a good and enriching choice.

Too bad it doesn't come out in the US until October *jealous*

[mmm skyscraper]

here's the soundtrack listing (for the music in the film, not the cd tracklist)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0422720/soundtrack

[joethelion]

so wait... how can it simulataneously be "the same film again" yet at the same time be a "good and enriching choice"


or is the film so good that you ignore that (basically) you've seen this movie twice already [as "Virgin Suicides" and "Lost in Translation"]

[joethelion]

so wait... how can it simulataneously be "the same film again" yet at the same time be a "good and enriching choice"


or is the film so good that you ignore that (basically) you've seen this movie twice already [as "Virgin Suicides" and "Lost in Translation"]

[m.g.]

Originally Posted by joethelion

so wait... how can it simulataneously be "the same film again" yet at the same time be a "good and enriching choice"

or is the film so good that you ignore that (basically) you've seen this movie twice already [as "Virgin Suicides" and "Lost in Translation"]

Ok, ok... let me explain, i didn't say that in a pejorative or depreciatory way. When i wrote that she did the "same film again", i was meaning that most of (good & interesting) directors are always doing "the same film"... a kind of obsessive quest for an idea, an emotion, a feeling, etc... they're very often exploring only very few different themes in their whole career, even if they do 10 to 20 films. In a way, it's possible to say that David Cronenberg, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese, Alfred Hitchcock or even Stanley Kubrick did many times the same film.

BUT there are a million ways how to do "the same film again", and that's what i find interesting, that's how i meant it & that's why i liked so much Marie Antoinette (and the 2 others films Sofia Coppola did).

Hopefully, it'll be clearer now...

[m.g.]

Just to "revive" this thread...

Anyone looking forward to seeing it? (supposedly released on 20th October in the UK & in the USA)

Just wondering...