Pink Floyd question

[lukeyd]

Originally Posted by thee carp dreamer

i'm gonna stick my oar in and say you have to get meddle. you have to.
echoes is one of the greatest pieces of music ever written.

yes

Originally Posted by thee carp dreamer

or, get the live in pompeii dvd.

yes yes.

also, just for shits and giggles, try doing this
basically, echoes is 23 minutes long, so is the last bit of 2001:space odyssey. kubrick asked floyd to contribute some of the score for that movie, they turned him down for whatever reason. roger waters later quoted as saying that this was one of the few career moves he ever made that he "truly regretted". if that was fun, then you've also got the whole dark side/wizard of oz thing too.

anywho. god i love floyd. and my mate wiley has a mint condition dark side lp, with (unverified) signatures from all band members. he went to have the signatures checked out, the collector said floyd were doing so many drugs at thats stage, no two signatures look the same - but still offered him £700 for it. worst bit is his girlfriend found it for him in a charity shop.

[adam]

Every movie has a last bit that's 23 minutes long.

I know what you mean, though.

[Rog]

As a Floyd fan from the late 60's i would say that Umma Gumma and Meddle were a must! Also Atom Heart Mother is a very interesting album too.

i don't much care for anything after DSOTM although Animals and Wish you were here have their moments.

[lukeyd]

Originally Posted by Rog

i don't much care for anything after DSOTM although Animals and Wish you were here have their moments.

i agree with this, same said of the wall really. unfortunately the best of (echoes) cuts the good tracks from said later albums quite badly

[adam]

Actually, I'd place Wish You Were Here among my favorites.

[lukeyd]

Originally Posted by adam

Actually, I'd place Wish You Were Here among my favorites.

well, there are two (or three, or nine depending on how you want to classify shine on you crazy diamond) tracks that are absoultely mind blowingly good, but machine and cigar are just filler

[adam]

Up yours Machine is filler.

[bavarianbeer]

Originally Posted by lukeyd

i agree with this, same said of the wall really.

Ah, I like The Wall. From what I've observed, people who don't like that album generally don't like it because of all the narcissistic rock star angst. I agree with them on that point, but I would say that the album is a lot less dependent on the inane rock star plot than the movie. The first disc of the album doesn't depend on it at all, actually.

I personally never liked Wish You Were Here. The guitar is godlike, of course, but I just thought the vocals were really grating and the whole thing just kind of dragged its feet. Meddle is cool though.

[TheRev]

Originally Posted by lukeyd

well, there are two (or three, or nine depending on how you want to classify shine on you crazy diamond) tracks that are absoultely mind blowingly good, but machine and cigar are just filler

Doubly up yours. Both some of my favorite songs out there.

Meddle is absolutely essential. I hold this along with Atom Heart Mother as my favorite Pink Floyd albums. I will also STRONGLY encourage purchase of Ummagumma. The Narrow Way is probably one of their most underappreciated songs, plus the live part totally kicks ass. Excellent rendition of Careful With That Axe Eugene, whose energy build is very similar to some X-Trax techno. (Think DJ Misjah & Groovehead "The Club")

[myshkin]

Can't really believe Ummagumma rated highter than Piper. Ummagumma is pretty directionless much of the time with a few excellent moments. Piper is genius, practically every song a classic but an album perhaps you have to come across while pretty young before cynicism kicks in too deep. Piper besides the musical fireworks is lyrically a far deeper phenomenon than may appear to be. Gnome on the surface a Tolkienish piece of whimsy but a story of man's evolution to knowledge for those who have ears to hear. True greatness often can lie in being content for your depths to go unnoticed rather than talking about obviously heavy serious subjects in a deep and meaningful lway.