Tea Party

[bryantm3]

okay, y'all, i think sarah palin is a moron as much as anybody that cares about our country not going to pot, but all this 'violence inciting' stuff is not really fair. sarah palin was raised out in the country, where a gun was needed for everyday life, for hunting, keeping wolves out of your backyard, etc. people who live in the country and have guns aren't necessarily dumb because they have guns, they're just different culturally. for example, i'm sure a lot of people who live in the country wouldn't have any need for alarm systems and deadbolts on doors. that being said, being raised where having a gun was part of everyday life, sarah palin knows guns, and uses what she's familiar with to make an analogy. she's not trying to get people to shoot at obama or something. we have tons of phrases we use everyday that come from gun usage, such as 'riding shotgun' in a car, where someone would keep their shotgun as protection, to a 'straight shooter' describing an honest person coming from someone who doesn't use light racks and unfair tactics to hunt animals, etc. y'all are taking this way too seriously and you're sounding like rush limbaugh did when obama mentioned '57 states' during the primaries.

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oh, she's so ironicle that she just simply Slays me! having been caught out with the 'RELOAD' and crosshairs, she's backtracking after her daddy reminded her that 'RELOADing' was what sports teams do after a defeat*. so ya see - retrospectively she wasn't inciting vioence - she was just happening to be using a sports term without even knowing about it. you see? so it's, like, ok what she did. so we can just make a BIG joke about it and all move on.

HEY LOOK - OVER THERE - A KOMUNIST!!!!!!!!!


*from her twitter feed

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

okay, y'all, i think sarah palin is a moron as much as anybody that cares about our country not going to pot, but all this 'violence inciting' stuff is not really fair.

If you want to staunchly declare that Sarah Palin would always abstain from demagoguery to further her career, or attempt to manipulate the violent passions of the people for her own gains then I need to ask what she's done for you to earn that trust.

Because as far as I see things, blinking stupidly behind her librarian glasses at the anger she's inciting with a self satisfied smile on her face is pretty much the *only* thing she's done since she got in the limelight.

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Sean

The list of course goes on - and none of this is to say that we're not a great country thanks to our virtually limitless potential - but how in the world do people like Beck and his biggest fans come to the conclusion that we're perfection incarnate?

To suggest an answer to your question, mormon doctrine asserts that the united states is a fountainhead of God's power. It was created by the hand of God, it's laws and constitution as inspired by His words as the ten commandments or the prophecies of Isaiah. The Garden of Eden, and therefore the return of Jesus at Adam Ondi Adam was/will be in Missouri. The war to end all wars, the war of apocalypse, will be won largely by the sacrifices and valor of America as it becomes more and more isolated from the world. But not before it purges itself of its own corruption and sins. All of these cataclysmic challenges will only be overcome by integrating the leadership of the country with the leadership of the church, and only then will America survive and flourish against the hardest adversities of human history.

This is shit that was written down 1820's, 1830's by Joseph Smith and the founders of the religion. And it is extremely unwise to discredit the impact of mormon thinking on american culture. Where mormonism lacks in ubiquity, it well makes up for in clarity, and a seductive worldview that the larger evangelical movement of the country envies, and is only too happy consume as soon as it resolves its own conflict of siding with the weirdos with jesus jammies. Glenn Beck is the first success of that integration.

And I'm not saying all this to get all religious. I just think its important to understand where Beck is coming from. He's is *extremely* a product of his devotion to God and its best to filter his nonsense in this regard. This is why he interviews sara palin with "Lady Liberty" in the back drop. Why he slobbers on national television like its testimony meeting at church. Why he uses a chalk board and a lot of cliche metaphors and acronyms like its sunday school.

The weirdest thing about this for me, is watching the entire country suffer the same tedium that bored me to tears 3 hours every sunday growing up.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36075836...me_and_courts/


ADRIAN, Mich. - Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia in the Midwest were charged Monday with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral in the hopes of killing more law enforcement people, federal prosecutors said.

Members of the group called Hutaree are charged in the case, including its leader, David Brian Stone. The suspects included six people from Michigan, two from Ohio and one from Indiana, officials said.

Once other officers gathered for the slain officer's funeral, the group planned to detonate homemade bombs with projectiles, killing more, the newly unsealed court papers revealed.

The charges follow FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.

The raids were prompted by Hutaree plans to stage "a covert reconnaissance operation for April which had the potential of placing an unsuspecting member of the public at risk," said Barbara McQuade, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan.

According to investigators, the Hutaree view local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel as a "brotherhood" and an enemy, and planned to attack them as part of an armed struggle against the U.S. government.

"It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more widespread uprising against the government," court documents said.

Eight suspects have been arrested by the FBI, and one more is being sought. Seven suspects appearedly briefly in court in Detroit on Monday and were ordered held without bond until a hearing on Wednesday.

Video


Plot to kill cops?
March 29: Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia in the Midwest are charged with conspiring to kill police officers. NBC's Pete Williams reports.
msnbc tv


Prosecuters said Stone, the militia leader, downloaded information about how to build explosive devices from the Internet and e-mailed diagrams of them to someone he believed was capable of making them, NBC reported.

He then directed his son and others to begin gathering the needed materials. Stone was charged, along with his wife and two sons. One son, Joshua Stone, remained a fugitive.

The Detroit News quoted Donna Stone, the ex-wife of Stone, as saying his growing radicalism was a factor in their divorce three years ago.

"You pray as a family, you stay together as a family," the News report Stone as saying. "When he got carried away, when he went from handguns to big guns, it's like, now I'm done."

'Extremist fringe'
Andrew Arena, head of the FBI's field office in Detroit, said the case "is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society. The FBI takes such extremist groups seriously, especially those who would target innocent citizens and the law enforcement officers who protect the citizens of the United States."

FBI spokesman Scott Wilson said agents arrested two people Saturday after raids in two towns in Ohio. A third arrest was made in northeast Illinois on Sunday, a day after a raid took place just over the border in northwest Indiana.

Michael Lackomar, a spokesman for the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, said one of his team leaders got a frantic phone call Saturday evening from members of Hutaree, who said their property in southwest Michigan was being raided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

"They said they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide," Lackomar said. "My team leader said, 'no thanks.'"



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So, do y'all think they have Palin bumper stickers and watch Beck regularly?

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

I wonder if the boys returning home from Iraq now feel like they never left?

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36075836...me_and_courts/


ADRIAN, Mich. - Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia in the Midwest were charged Monday with conspiring to kill police officers, then attack a funeral in the hopes of killing more law enforcement people, federal prosecutors said.

Members of the group called Hutaree are charged in the case, including its leader, David Brian Stone. The suspects included six people from Michigan, two from Ohio and one from Indiana, officials said.

Once other officers gathered for the slain officer's funeral, the group planned to detonate homemade bombs with projectiles, killing more, the newly unsealed court papers revealed.

The charges follow FBI raids over the weekend on locations in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana.

The raids were prompted by Hutaree plans to stage "a covert reconnaissance operation for April which had the potential of placing an unsuspecting member of the public at risk," said Barbara McQuade, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan.

According to investigators, the Hutaree view local, state, and federal law enforcement personnel as a "brotherhood" and an enemy, and planned to attack them as part of an armed struggle against the U.S. government.

"It is believed by the Hutaree that this engagement would then serve as a catalyst for a more widespread uprising against the government," court documents said.

Eight suspects have been arrested by the FBI, and one more is being sought. Seven suspects appearedly briefly in court in Detroit on Monday and were ordered held without bond until a hearing on Wednesday.

Video


Plot to kill cops?
March 29: Nine suspects tied to a Christian militia in the Midwest are charged with conspiring to kill police officers. NBC's Pete Williams reports.
msnbc tv


Prosecuters said Stone, the militia leader, downloaded information about how to build explosive devices from the Internet and e-mailed diagrams of them to someone he believed was capable of making them, NBC reported.

He then directed his son and others to begin gathering the needed materials. Stone was charged, along with his wife and two sons. One son, Joshua Stone, remained a fugitive.

The Detroit News quoted Donna Stone, the ex-wife of Stone, as saying his growing radicalism was a factor in their divorce three years ago.

"You pray as a family, you stay together as a family," the News report Stone as saying. "When he got carried away, when he went from handguns to big guns, it's like, now I'm done."

'Extremist fringe'
Andrew Arena, head of the FBI's field office in Detroit, said the case "is an example of radical and extremist fringe groups which can be found throughout our society. The FBI takes such extremist groups seriously, especially those who would target innocent citizens and the law enforcement officers who protect the citizens of the United States."

FBI spokesman Scott Wilson said agents arrested two people Saturday after raids in two towns in Ohio. A third arrest was made in northeast Illinois on Sunday, a day after a raid took place just over the border in northwest Indiana.

Michael Lackomar, a spokesman for the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, said one of his team leaders got a frantic phone call Saturday evening from members of Hutaree, who said their property in southwest Michigan was being raided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

"They said they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide," Lackomar said. "My team leader said, 'no thanks.'"

oh come off it, jOHN; you're just getting swept along with the lamestream media who are just using this as a reason not to report anything bad done by muslums. it's all a leftist smokescreen

[Sean]

Some brilliant new thoughts from Tea Party Express 3 Chairman Mark Williams:

"We need to purge the Republicans of the weaklings"

"And we’re on a...RINO ('Republicans in name only') hunt. And we’re going to drive them to extinction.”

"I got more knife wounds in my back from Republican operatives, than Democrats could ever do. The Democrats at least stand there and tell me they hate me, and tell me that they hate America. These Republicans smile at me, shake my hand and then they stab me in the back."

Democrats tell him that they "hate America"? Yeah....I'm sure that happens all the time. As for this "RINO hunt" business, does this tool Williams realize that if his dreams are realized, he'll be simply handing all the long-term control of the country to the Democrats as the Republican party gets whittled down to only it's most ideologically extremist members? They seriously don't stand a chance in hell of getting a majority vote from the right, and more importantly, the center if that's all they are.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by Sean

Some brilliant new thoughts from Tea Party Express 3 Chairman Mark Williams:

"We need to purge the Republicans of the weaklings"

"And we’re on a...RINO ('Republicans in name only') hunt. And we’re going to drive them to extinction.”

"I got more knife wounds in my back from Republican operatives, than Democrats could ever do. The Democrats at least stand there and tell me they hate me, and tell me that they hate America. These Republicans smile at me, shake my hand and then they stab me in the back."

Democrats tell him that they "hate America"? Yeah....I'm sure that happens all the time. As for this "RINO hunt" business, does this tool Williams realize that if his dreams are realized, he'll be simply handing all the long-term control of the country to the Democrats as the Republican party gets whittled down to only it's most ideologically extremist members? They seriously don't stand a chance in hell of getting a majority vote from the right, and more importantly, the center if that's all they are.

AND FROM THE BIBLE-BELT(the irony, no?), Hallelujah!!:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A woman who called 911 after a fatal shooting at an Easter party told a police dispatcher she retrieved a gun to prove a point and it went off.

Evelyn Burgess, 42, is accused of shooting 19-year-old Danielle Pickens during a fight that police say started over a skimpy Easter outfit — jean shorts and a green T-shirt tied up around Pickens’ midriff.

"I didn't mean to do it," the woman said. "We was arguing, I tried to get my gun to prove a point, they got the rifle with me and it went off."

Asked about the location of her niece, the woman says bluntly, "In the car. I think she's dead."

The woman does not give her name but calls herself the victim's aunt. Family members say Burgess was referred to as Pickens’ aunt, though she was her older second cousin.

Often wore short skirts
Police say Burgess got into a fight with Pickens over her attire, then shot her outside Burgess' house Sunday night. Pickens died at a hospital early the next day.

Family members of both women said Tuesday that Pickens' style of dressing was well-known among relatives.

Pickens often wore short skirts to the holiday gatherings hosted by Burgess, said Pickens' sister, Ralinda Pickens, and uncle, Tico Pickens.

"The way she was dressed that day is the way she always dressed, and everybody knew that," said Tico Pickens, 33. "It wasn't like she meant any harm toward nobody by doing it. It was just comfortable to her."

Burgess, 42, is charged with one count of murder. Franklin County Municipal Court Judge William Pollitt set Burgess' bond at $500,000 during a court appearance Tuesday.

Burgess didn't say anything at the hearing and doesn't have a lawyer assigned to her yet.

At her house on Tuesday, her husband, Kevin Burgess, said his wife was doing all right, but he declined to comment further.

Events escalate
Danielle, who went by Danny, once dressed like a tomboy, then one day tried on a short skirt she liked and started dressing differently.

"The first time she put on a cute little skirt, I guessed she liked it and she dressed like that ever since," said Ralinda Pickens, 20.

She says events escalated quickly at the Easter party at Burgess' house on the north side of Columbus.

Evelyn Burgess was angry at Danielle over her outfit and accused her of flaunting her looks around other men at the party, including Burgess' husband, Ralinda Pickens said.

A fight broke out with Evelyn Burgess and Danielle struggling with a baseball bat, then ended as Ralinda Pickens broke things up, got her sister outside and prepared to drive her home.

The sisters were in the car when Burgess came running up with a gun, reached inside the car, pulled Danielle by the hair and shot her as she tried to seek shelter under her older sister, Ralinda Pickens said.



"I just shot my niece," the woman says calmly at the beginning of the 33-second call released on Tuesday.

[cured]

I'm really fascinated by Teabonics. It's like they do it on purpose to draw out the reading elite who would correct them.

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