Iranian uranium

[bas_I_am]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Israel's PM has just said Iran should now face 'crippling sanctions'.

Isreal should face crippling sanctions

1) Do you believe Iran's claim that it is only pursuing nuclear energy?

Why should they have to claim anything?

2) In your view, are Iran entitled to develop a nuclear weapons program?

They are as entitiled as any other country. Any other view is xenophobic.

3) Would you be willing to live with a nuclear-armed Iran? (Hans Blix says he would)

As willing to live with any nuclear-armed country.

If diplomacy and sanctions fail, what - if anything - should the rest of the world do about it?

obliterate the zionists!!!

[Rog]

Originally Posted by bas_I_am

obliterate the zionists!!!

a very considered reply

[Rog]

1. I don't believe iran is persuing nuclear energy.....why would they with all that fuckin oil.

2. Who are we (nuclear powers) to say that others can't have them.

3. we will probably have no choice........

If sanctions fail......head for the shelters, as there will more chance of a nuclear war if nutters get the technology

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

O.K., yous guys don't watch television enough, everything is all right dammit!

[Rog]

i feel so much better for that

[Deckard]

My own take on this (so far)...

1) Do you believe Iran's claim that it is only pursuing nuclear energy?
I have severe doubts. I think if I was Iran, I'd be pursuing a nuclear deterrent. And fast.

2) Are Iran entitled to develop a nuclear weapons program?
Yes they are.

3) Would you be willing to live with a nuclear-armed Iran?
That's the bottom line. It's all very well acknowledging that Iran has as much right to develop a nuclear weapon as the US or UK or Israel - but should fairness take precedent over safety? I'm seriously freaked by the thought of any theocracy gaining nukes, but especially one that is now a self-admitted 'enemy of the West'. And yes, I accept that being a part of 'the West' myself is bound to colour my opinion.

If diplomacy and sanctions fail, what - if anything - should the rest of the world do about it?
I have a feeling we're a bit fcuked.

If the stand-off escalates into conflict - say 'someone' decides to lob a missile at an installation - then for a start we can look forward to world oil prices tripling. Iran is fortunate to have the Strait of Hormuz, the route of most exported Middle Eastern oil - otherwise known as, the world's balls. I have a fear it would make last year's financial meltdown look like a minor cashflow hiccup.

If things escalate even beyond that, well it doesn't bear thinking about. Iran is no Iraq, for one thing. Perhaps much will depend on the role of China.

Thank goodness we have such a good relationship with them lately. I mean, I don't think I'd be able to sleep at night if we didn't.

5 Feb 2010: China to put duties on US chicken imports
4 Feb 2010: China warns against Iran nuclear programme sanctions
2 Feb 2010: China warns Obama not to meet Dalai Lama
30 Jan 2010: China furious at $6.4bn weapons sale to Taiwan
22 Jan 2010: China condemns 'groundless' US criticism of web control
22 Dec 2009: China rejects UK claims it hindered Copenhagen talks

[mmm skyscraper]

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[bas_I_am]

Originally Posted by Rog

a very considered reply

Extremely considered.

We've been to this movie before. . .

If someone were to say 'Obliterate Nazi's!' you wouldn't think twice.

Zionism is evil - the equvalent of Nazism.

Any group that believes their theology affords political gain must be stopped - by any means.

Zionism ≠ Judaism

Unfortunately, to express opposition to Zion, is considered antisemetic. Nothing could be further from the truth.

google:

Irgun
Haganah
King David Hotel
Deir Yassin
Al-Kabri
Kafr Qasim

I could go on and on.

Isreal should be wiped from the map, just as Nazi Germany was.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by bas_I_am

Extremely considered.

We've been to this movie before. . .

If someone were to say 'Obliterate Nazi's!' you wouldn't think twice.

Zionism is evil - the equvalent of Nazism.

Any group that believes their theology affords political gain must be stopped - by any means.

Zionism ≠ Judaism

Unfortunately, to express opposition to Zion, is considered antisemetic. Nothing could be further from the truth.

google:

Irgun
Haganah
King David Hotel
Deir Yassin
Al-Kabri
Kafr Qasim

I could go on and on.

Isreal should be wiped from the map, just as Nazi Germany was.

O.K., but then the other country obliterating another country then becomes the Nazish type thing they are saying they don't like, no? I mean, I really didn't want to comment on this as I don't truely know the entirety of opposing tensions in this region to make a clear comment.

So there is a crazy right in the area. I'm SHOCKED!!! Are you part of the crazy left in the area? Or more center? Or center-right? Or center-left? Or center-center. Oh just forget it all, wanna smoke a joint and go to an Underworld show? And, I mean, don't look at me I don't have any, but hoping you would or something.




*****

AND, NO, I'M NOT WATCHING NO DAMN LAWRENCE OF ARABIA! Just keep posting the google bit you can go on & on & on about . . .

[bas_I_am]

Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

O.K., but then the other country obliterating another country then becomes the Nazish type thing they are saying they don't like, no?

No, a people have a right to defend themselves.
And to take up the fight of the oppressed is noble.

Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

I mean, I really didn't want to comment on this as I don't truely know the entirety of opposing tensions in this region to make a clear comment.

See Lawrence Of Arabia and you will understand the issue.