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Old 10-08-2009, 07:49 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
its about damn time.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...he-White-House

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All the criticism, both fair and misleading, took a toll, regularly knocking the White House off message. So a new White House strategy has emerged: rather than just giving reporters ammunition to "fact-check" Obama's many critics, the White House decided it would become a player, issuing biting attacks on those pundits, politicians and outlets that make what the White House believes to be misleading or simply false claims, like the assertion that health-care reform would establish new "sex clinics" in schools. Obama, fresh from his vacation on Martha's Vineyard, cheered on the effort, telling his aides he wanted to "call 'em out." [...]
White House officials offer no apologies. "The best analogy is probably baseball," says Gibbs. "The only way to get somebody to stop crowding the plate is to throw a fastball at them. They move."



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Old 10-08-2009, 09:11 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
So instead of giving important facts to be checked, they are turning into a media police that is cross checking the garbage they want us to swallow with whatever free speech is left in the press, and attempting to discredit anyone who says anything off the beaten script. That's fucked and to clap and cheer over this you'd fit right in with this bunch......
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:53 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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So instead of giving important facts to be checked, they are turning into a media police that is cross checking the garbage they want us to swallow with whatever free speech is left in the press, and attempting to discredit anyone who says anything off the beaten script. That's fucked and to clap and cheer over this you'd fit right in with this bunch......

Sheep.
It literally hurts to type a response to you, but I'll expend the effort. I would personally prefer that the white house stay out of the media circus and not be a player. To simply provide information from which the media can fact check their critics : that was their initial strategy.

It wasn't working, because it waaaaay over-estimated the maturity and intelligence of their critics that they would really even bother listening to arguments that threatened their dogma. It also over-estimated the media that they wouldn't completely pander to the loud and obnoxious, allowing it to fester into a movement, an entire dick armey of tea-baggers, as it were.

I want Obama to do his job and stand up and fight, not for himself, but for the truth of the problems facing this country, all blurred by the psychoses of people like yourself. And that's what I find most repugnant about your posts. You think you're unpopular on here because everyone is unthinking obama yes-bots.

You're unpopular because you're an intellectual meat head committing daily crimes against truth out of some arrogant need to demonize Obama. Its not that I'm unwilling to listen to criticism of Obama when I have so many complaints myself. All I hear after pages and pages of this stupid thread is a toddler with a poopy diaper throwing their blocks at the tv screaming "I hate you!"

Look man, Obama is your president. If you really can't handle it, and you can't justify your anger with reasons, and you refuse to question and inform yourself outside of your small bag of convictions, perhaps you should just do america a favor and spend the next three and a half years masturbating to girls gone wild in your bedroom. Seriously, disappear. that's the best thing you can do for your country. Let the adults discuss the problems while you go to beddy bye.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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It literally hurts to type a response to you, but I'll expend the effort. I would personally prefer that the white house stay out of the media circus and not be a player. To simply provide information from which the media can fact check their critics : that was their initial strategy.

It wasn't working, because it waaaaay over-estimated the maturity and intelligence of their critics that they would really even bother listening to arguments that threatened their dogma. It also over-estimated the media that they wouldn't completely pander to the loud and obnoxious, allowing it to fester into a movement, an entire dick armey of tea-baggers, as it were.

I want Obama to do his job and stand up and fight, not for himself, but for the truth of the problems facing this country, all blurred by the psychoses of people like yourself. And that's what I find most repugnant about your posts. You think you're unpopular on here because everyone is unthinking obama yes-bots.

You're unpopular because you're an intellectual meat head committing daily crimes against truth out of some arrogant need to demonize Obama. Its not that I'm unwilling to listen to criticism of Obama when I have so many complaints myself. All I hear after pages and pages of this stupid thread is a toddler with a poopy diaper throwing their blocks at the tv screaming "I hate you!"

Look man, Obama is your president. If you really can't handle it, and you can't justify your anger with reasons, and you refuse to question and inform yourself outside of your small bag of convictions, perhaps you should just do america a favor and spend the next three and a half years masturbating to girls gone wild in your bedroom. Seriously, disappear. that's the best thing you can do for your country. Let the adults discuss the problems while you go to beddy bye.
Spot on post.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:19 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
cant remember if i read it in this thread or in an article but whoever pointed out that there's a lot of people, who were very flustered by the hyperventilating claims of the left, that are now kinda relishing the idea of throwing the same apocalyptic garbage right back are pretty spot on. regardless of approach, principles, actions, or style, the opportunity to be the underdog getting fucked with just seems too irresistable to not play up.

never mind that it's one of several things that make politics and forums circuitous and depressing.

i dont recall any warnings from the white house going "watch what you say" guy, it's just playing fact-checking against fact-checkers. grow a pair.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
CNN fact checked the SNL skit about Obama from the other night. Pretty scary when a media giant thinks that's a good use of resources.

Strangelet: high five!
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:13 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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need to demonize Obama
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:55 AM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
You need to return to the website from where you hotlinked that image, and re-stock up on their produce.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:21 AM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:48 AM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
Yay! A David Dees illustration complete with cackling politicians and sheeple!

(Careful though, your ruse is lurching a little too far into self-parody at this point)
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