Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools

[Sean]

Originally Posted by dubman

anyone in this thread mention yet how people hate being wrong and all the 'secret muslim' crap from before november has just found a new avenue along with giving regular cons an excuse to get pissy without it looking like racism?

people with batshit opinions form one or five or ten years ago dont go away, they just restructure the same thing.

The "secret Muslim" stuff hasn't gone away amazingly enough. You can still see it on display at that Cured linked, and you can see it from one of . More specifically, he called Obama an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief", and then defended this statement by saying "...that's the way he's behaving!"

I've never seen anything like this in the U.S.A. on such proud display during my lifetime.

[the mongoose]

Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:



Another glaringly racist interview:




Good God, the racists are coming out of the fucking woodwork...and Obama's not even an "official member", so fucking biased that CFR is. I mean even Angelina Jolie is an official member, how racist!:





How dare this racist whitey clarify a freudian slip?!?:






Bottom line, just remember that ONLY white people can be racists and liars!

[dubman]

ho ho ho


ohhh, if anyone still gives a shit about this thread this is gonna be good.

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by dubman

ho ho ho
ohhh, if anyone still gives a shit about this thread this is gonna be good.

this thread? Its the entire fucking country that's turned into redneck theatre's presentation of "how far can I shove my head up my ass and not pass out."

My born again boss at lunch just explained to us that Barrack means "lightning" and bama means sky in aramaic, the language of jesus christ, and that in matthew it says that satan will come in the form of lightning from the sky. All I could choke out is well I guess that's worse than being born in Kenya.

Chances are things will end up more despotic at the end of this, and the dollar really does have the ability to utterly collapse to a point where it will have to just be replaced, and there is a chance that what replaces it will be multinational. But I don't blame anyone for this more than I do people like Mongoose. Its on their shoulders because they simply *refuse* to go off script and actually face reality. NO no, its too much fun looking for subliminimiminibabable messages. The only comfort is the loons end up turning on themselves, like this quality video giving air tight proof that Ron Paul is just a NWO patsy to give the illusion that people of mongoose's ilk has a political ally.

Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:

its pretty obvious he's laughing at people like you

[BeautifulBurnout]

OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:

i'm not sure i understand why this video was selected to make your point.

[dubman]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.

any form of degenerate dialogue with a shred of plausibility to anyone who cant/wont think critically and takes the "logical path" shown to them will make its way out there by people who can talk really fucking loud. this isnt special to the US, but news has been a business for a long time, and it's obvious that we've gotten very good at fine-tuning these things. "making stuff up" is too diabolical, i dont even think the networks have a political agenda for it. presenting the right balance of actual news with "commentators" to color it as breathlessly as possible tells people whats happening and narrows down the dialogue to keep people tuned in. even if people think theyre smarter and dont buy it, they're talking about it on the network's terms. if people actually go whole hog and believe it, that's even better because those people end up in the street shouting it all back at them.

people are terrible. they were terrible against bush, they are terrible now. you can tell the tea-baggers that Rick Santelli, who originally suggested the "symbolic act" on CNBC, was paid off to lay the astroturf and they'll still think that they didnt just get chumped and made into pawns.

since this is mostly 101 stuff, i'm just saying it so that me also saying that there's something more than just looney tunes at work isnt coming out of the blue. this still feels constructed, albeit differently. it's not the chaos of the news network's L.C.D., it feels more like the networks are the ones being marketed to based on their own formula. like a committee looked out to tap a natural resource of people too pissed off to think straight, sure, but also with a subfocus of exploiting the subtelties of racial relations that cant possibly be understood on a national level without inciting a reverse-victim complex. it works too well.

white guys cannot talk about race, guys cannot talk about women, able-bodied people cannot talk about the disabled. most cant even address the idea of a cultural minority without soon feeling like they're being attacked, and then arguing with others' own perspective so that theirs still works. lecturing, socratic elenchus, and condescending to give them any other list of reasons because someone obviously needs to be educated. this happens everywhere on the internet and several times here. so: you start talking racism on tv, and do it long enough, the news stories of "white conservatives say it's time for their own empowerment" slime out and the topic will make people who'd rather not address anything substantial roll their eyes out of 'overexposure'. because it's easier to believe that you're just being put upon to feel guilty rather than face the interesting idea that your cultural approach to race, sex, and identity might completely play into a form of oppression. it's not hard to understand overexposure, you keep generating news stories about race, you let the smart and the dumb bat back and forth and make fun of each other, and eventually you kill the dialogue by making the topic fall out of favor.

the astroturf that created what's generously being called a new political party was born out of corporate interest. these interests went through PR firms that went through news channels that became best-sellers. this kind of machination isnt a stretch, but it's definitely "strange" (as the thread title has it) because it's a new level in a very eerie way.

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by dubman

the astroturf that created what's generously being called a new political party was born out of corporate interest. these interests went through PR firms that went through news channels that became best-sellers. this kind of machination isnt a stretch, but it's definitely "strange" (as the thread title has it) because it's a new level in a very eerie way.

No it absolutely isn't a stretch. But corporations, like banks, or journalists, or governments or all four in cahoots are always doing what is in their interest, what everyone else is simply doing around them, and whatever they can get away with. So you can pretty much chalk up corporate dickheadedness as a constant in this equation.

What's a variable is just how much they can get away with, and how little people resist. Things like regulator capturing, lobby pressured law making, monopolies, favoring subsidies, etc have rose and fell in magnitude since the beginning.

So the question has become what is it about now that has made this corporate take over so potent, and the resistance so withered, and the people who should be outraged at the particular, glaring corruption so devoid of common sense or reason. Not to pick on him, as he's clearly a drop in the bucket, but how does someone like mongoose, who obviously means well and wants to make things better, end up getting a hard on when obama says "muslim faith" but yawns at the all too real examples of corporate corruption that is literally beating him in the face on a daily basis.

I firmly believe that americans, to stereotype, want to do the right thing. which is why they end up doing such awful things because someone succeeded in convincing them it was right and good. And that's only compounded by the fact that the government has so perfectly grafted the american christian church onto it and corporations have so perfectly grafted the government onto it, so that now its really easy to make it an ethical argument to say, not does it make uncle sam happy when you shop at walmart, it makes jesus happy too. Not only are liberals against capitalism, they are against God. This is *precisely* the reason why dialog has been so degenerated, and why talking to mongoose is not unlike talking to a street preacher about evolution.

My interest is not to make fun or condescend or sneer at people like Mongoose. My interest is to shame them into dropping the bullshit. That convincing them of giving up the pretense they have it all figured out and it starts with the knights templar is what is really good and right and what will make jesus the happiest.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout

OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.

Why get concerned about facts now? This is a country where a full third of the population firmly rejects the idea of evolution - far more than in any other western nation. One study found that "the U.S. has a tradition of Protestant fundamentalism not found in Europe that takes the Bible literally and sees the Book of Genesis as an accurate account of the creation of human life." This is basically comparable to refusing to accept that the world is round (or slightly oblong if you want to get technical). So why should Obama get any more consideration than a proven, fundamental process like evolution?

As for Mongoose, I unfortunately hazarded a look at his last post, and I have to wonder who he's arguing against. Did someone here claim that any and all questioning of or opposition to Obama is motivated by racism? Most intelligent people raising racism have been clear that it's likely just one of many factors that influence opposition to Obama's policies. Not even Obama himself has claimed that racism is the overriding, motivating factor. Legitimate, thoughtful, constructive questions and criticisms are great. But the dumb-asses who attend rallies with signs depicting Obama as an African witch-doctor and the like should probably take a moment to look at themselves in the mirror while carrying said sign, and think long and hard about what's actually motivating them. I somehow doubt that in their case, it's a legitimate, thoughtful or constructive question or criticism.

[Rog]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Barack Obama’s anti-gun policy:

* 1994 to 2001 - Obama was on the board of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. This foundation is the largest funding source for radical anti-gun groups in the country.

* 1996 - Obama supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

* 1999 - Obama proposed a 500 percent increase in the excise taxes on firearms and ammunition. This tax would effectively punish gun owners for buying guns and ammunition.

* 2003 - Obama voted in support of legislation that would have banned privately owned hunting shotguns, target rifles and black powder rifles in Illinois.

* 2004 - Obama voted against legislation intended to protect homeowners from prosecution in cases where they used a firearm to halt a home invasion.


FACT: Barack Obama voted against the confirmation of 2 of the 5 Justices that affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.

and you think these are bad things?????????????