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Old 09-18-2009, 12:31 AM
matt
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Re: The beginning of the end for P2Ps/Torrent Sites?
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Great point.
Yes & no.

If bas is using 1 gig of data a day then surely he should pay more than someone who just wants to check a few emails daily and maybe browse a few web pages. I understand that in this case why should the PRS get a cut if it's not copyrighted data, but I'd imagine the majority of people d/l a gig or more a day are involved in illegal file sharing
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:25 AM
Deckard
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Re: The beginning of the end for P2Ps/Torrent Sites?
True. People's bandwidth requirements vary hugely, and from a purely resource-based perspective, charging according to usage amount seems fair enough to me, irrespective of any assumptions about what the bandwidth is used for.

While it's a good bet that most are indeed currently illegal file sharers, it would be hugely unfair to assume that, say, 94 per cent =100 per cent, and have 6 per cent of users being unfairly charged (Figures courtesy of my ass!) without some more accurate way to identify illegal downloading.

With the increasing use of BBC iPlayer HD and other services, it'll become harder and harder to make that assumption anyway.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:52 AM
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Re: The beginning of the end for P2Ps/Torrent Sites?
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Yes & no.

If bas is using 1 gig of data a day then surely he should pay more than someone who just wants to check a few emails daily and maybe browse a few web pages. I understand that in this case why should the PRS get a cut if it's not copyrighted data, but I'd imagine the majority of people d/l a gig or more a day are involved in illegal file sharing
and how much more should I pay than US$79 a month I currently pay for my home business static IP via COX cable?
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:06 PM
Sean
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Re: The beginning of the end for P2Ps/Torrent Sites?
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Yes & no.

If bas is using 1 gig of data a day then surely he should pay more than someone who just wants to check a few emails daily and maybe browse a few web pages. I understand that in this case why should the PRS get a cut if it's not copyrighted data, but I'd imagine the majority of people d/l a gig or more a day are involved in illegal file sharing
I was referring mainly to how his point applies to assumptions about ownership. I do a lot of uploading and downloading to storage sites and such too, because I'm working on an album that I listen to on all the systems I can to check production quality. I also do a lot of photography work online. So what I'm up/downloading is all mine, and I wouldn't want people charging me more because they've assumed that the files I'm dealing with are being illegally traded.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:51 AM
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Re: The beginning of the end for P2Ps/Torrent Sites?
A really good article about the history of the music/movie industries and the innovations they tried to kill:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-own-words.ars
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