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Old 08-21-2009, 07:19 PM
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Re: Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anyway, this is just my long way of agreeing with you, Chuck. And thanks for reminding me that I want to see the rest of the Betsy McCaughey interview that they couldn't fit into the half hour show last night. She was a nut and a half, wasn't she? Trying to actually convince us that "death panels" were real even though all information she provided said otherwise? Crazy.
And Betsy resigns.

Odd that - day after getting her ass handed to her on a plate by Stewart, she resigns so as to "avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest during the national debate over healthcare reform."

Yeah right - I think it's to give her more time to find the page 432. or was it 423??

Stewart: "Maybe you could have used some post-it notes...."

priceless.

Sean - we get the Daily Show fresh on TV here, but can't watch the full episodes online - I'll have to get that proxy server working.

We also get Fox, CNN International, BBC and Sky News and al-Jazeera, so if you work hard you can get a decent cross-section of opinion. Our local news is just a regurgitate of CBS/NBC/ITV stories - plus local stuff.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:20 AM
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Re: Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Odd that you chuckleheads are calling Betsy a nut for quoting the actual fucked legislation to support her arguments. It's completely obvious that most people only saw the first ten minutes which ended quite abruptly on air, but the whole interview must be seen in it's entirety in order to understand all of the facts involved. She totally makes Jon Stewart look like a rich, socialist moron (although I personally think he's very funny and it was cool of him to at least let her talk, unlike the typical media"out of time" Nazis at NBC for example)


The first 10 minutes of the interview (where she walks out with an actual copy of the health care bill) was aired on tv, but the whole thing must be seen in order to realize that everything Betsy McCaughn said was actually very empirical; and she did a great job of proving every argument with facts and stopping him from railroading her with his contant bombardment of wiseass "AUDIENCE (paid to)LAUGH!!!......AUDIENCE (paid to) APPLAUSE!!!" infantile tangents:

Only way to see the beginning ("part 1") is watching the full televised version of the show. It includes a portion of part "2" that cuts off abruptly after the ten minute interview is over. The producers did not edit the interview at all so that the rest would have to be found "UNCENSORED" online........>>>Click for full episode with part "1" of the interview<<<



Uncensored (part "2" - reuses the second portion of part 1)
Exclusive - Betsy McCaughey Extended Interview Pt. "2"

Uncensored (part "3")
Exclusive - Betsy McCaughey Extended Interview Pt. "3"


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Old 08-22-2009, 08:25 AM
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Re: Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Odd that you chuckleheads are calling Betsy a nut for quoting the actual fucked legislation to support her arguments.
WTF are you smoking. Seriously - I'm fucking done with putting up with your idle rants. I don't even live in your country - I really don't give a rats ass about how far down the toilet you flush your society.

But please - where in that interview - which I watched in the entirety - before you get all fucking sanctimonious - did Betsy find anything to actually backup the claims of "death panels"/socialism/imperialism and everything else that's apparently bad and evil in the policy. I mean she struggles to even find the fricking page that apparently contains the keys to hell. She was reading clear and unequivocal statements - and then her secret decoder ring was turning it into unqualified crap from the rear end of looney-ville that didn't even make sense whilst she was saying it. And Stewart had the balls to call her on it.

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It's completely obvious that most people only saw the first ten minutes which ended quite abruptly on air, but the whole interview must be seen in it's entirety in order to understand all of the facts involved. She totally makes Jon Stewart look like a rich, socialist moron (although I personally think he's very funny and it was cool of him to at least let her talk, unlike the typical media"out of time" Nazis at NBC for example)
Did you even listen to Stewart - at all? Did you hear him talk about how he was happy to have his taxes go to help others....

Oh wait - there's Nazis working at NBC now????

christ all fucking mighty - at least have the decency to reserve your slanderous bullshit for individuals that might actually deserve it. You're throwing the term 'Nazi' around like it's the same as calling someone a dickhead.

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The first 10 minutes of the interview (where she walks out with an actual copy of the health care bill) was aired on tv, but the whole thing must be seen in order to realize that everything Betsy McCaughn said was actually very empirical; and she did a great job of proving every argument with facts and stopping him from railroading her with his contant bombardment of wiseass "AUDIENCE (paid to)LAUGH!!!......AUDIENCE (paid to) APPLAUSE!!!" infantile tangents:
WHAT FUCKING FACTS! She was making shit up as she went along. Even when Stewart was agreeing with her facts, she still couldn't make any sense.

Betsy just makes asinine remarks like "Isn't he cute." with that falsetto smile and shrill little giggle that makes me want to punch myself in the eyeball.

Holy shit - I'm so glad you linked to the entire interview. It's far better viewing than anything you've posted here. And everyone else can see it as well.

Again - I'm not even in your country and don't really care - but watching Stewart dismantle the arguments that supposedly are at the core of the what the right is holding to in this debate - I'm sitting here wondering why there's all this smoke and the fury, when in reality it's more like the sound of one hand clapping.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm sitting here wondering why there's all this smoke and the fury, when in reality it's more like the sound of one hand clapping.
Brilliant!
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:05 AM
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Re: Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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...; and she did a great job of proving every argument with facts ...
To paraphrase a certain US Senator: What planet have you been brought up on to come to this totally quirky assessment of her performance? I cannot remember from the recent past any would-be-professional politician behaving as insecure and "proving" as ponderously as Betsy McCaughey did on that show. (I must admit, though, I've only seen the truncated part of the interview and can't be bothered to watch the rest.)

Seriously, it gave me physical pain watching her talking around that hot spot "page 432" for ages. - Why the hell didn't she just read out the important part of the law in the beginning in order to demonstrate her point? I mean, "someone must have ripped out that page"... COME ON?!?! Are you kidding me? Even if somebody DID rip that page out, she should have checked again right before the show. Better, she should know the paragraph in question by heart.

And don't start telling me Jon Stewart was unfair, interrupting her all the time. Of course he was. That's his style. She must have known before, and, despite this very style, should have been able to confidently, and in plain language, insert her point. Otherwise, she's just not fit for TV interviews, esp. with all that grinning in the wrong direction and stupidly laughing at Stewart making fun her. Face it, she made a complete fool of herself and her cause with that performance.
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