Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chuck]

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

Or should I just stay watching the Daily Show?

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by chuck

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

It's SOCIALISM, Chuck. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M has come to 'merica.

Barack Hussein Obama is going to turn the country into the United States of Russia.

Or worse, the UK.

Oh, and BO is not a real 'merican either. He's a dirty forrrner. He don't even got a birth certificate or shit like that to prove who he says he is. (But you can tell - y'know - just by LOOKING at him)

On a serious note, it's quite scary how, since Obama came to power, the (outside perception of the) whole of the US seems to have turned into Fox-watching, NRA gun-toting, barely literate wingnuts. Where are all the calm rational voices on our screens? Sanity not Hannity please (hey it's monday morning)

mongoose - sorry, no time to digest all that or do it justice - hence this time-contrained, jR-style free association post.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by chuck

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

Or should I just stay watching the Daily Show?

I've been waiting for this thread to start. Just sitting back for now to see were it goes. To be honest, I'm a bit(no,VERY MUCH) disgusted with all the attention it's getting. We still have boys dying over seas in a war started and so heavily approved by the same people screaming at these town hall meetings.

Originally Posted by Deckard

- hence this time-contrained, jR-style free association post.

What exactly do you mean by free association? PM me(like call me ) Just kidding.


Also, is it not just such a pretty colored website? Gives me the munchies for Easter candy: http://www.exitinternational.net/

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Michigan is the place where a fucked up not for profit company called EXIT international has begun it's US operations this summer. There is also a Swiss company called Dignitas that does similar work

Why is it "fucked up" exactly?

Is it euthanasia in general that you think is fucked up, or just the background to this company that's making you suspicious?

Originally Posted by jR

Gives me the munchies for Easter candy: http://www.exitinternational.net/

Now that is fucked up.

[//\/\/]

Originally Posted by Deckard

On a serious note, it's quite scary how, since Obama came to power, the (outside perception of the) whole of the US seems to have turned into Fox-watching, NRA gun-toting, barely literate wingnuts.

...actually, this was happening waaaay before obama won! obama's election has actually improved things!

[Deckard]

Well I was hoping it would, but ever since he became president there seems to be a never-ending stream of these loonies queueing up to appear on camera to tarnish the country's reputation. Maybe in some strange way it's a good thing, like a disease making itself most known when faced with treatment? (It's ok, the arrogance of my analogy hasn't escaped me)

Anyway... healthcare....

[Strangelet]

Mongoose, when it comes to Larouche, how can you take someone seriously who compares Obama to Hitler?

Between you and me, don't you think you need to, I don't know, conquer three quarters of a continent and attempt to exterminate an entire minority off the face of the earth before that comparison would be warrented?

just throwing that out there...

[Sean]

I'm not quite sure what you're looking for people to respond to or what you're trying to say exactly, mongoose. Is it a commentary on a conspiracy theory, or a stance on supposed "death panels", or health insurance for illegal immigrants, or the World Bank, or all of the above? If all of the above, then does that mean this is why you oppose a health care overhaul?

Originally Posted by Deckard

On a serious note, it's quite scary how, since Obama came to power, the (outside perception of the) whole of the US seems to have turned into Fox-watching, NRA gun-toting, barely literate wingnuts. Where are all the calm rational voices on our screens? Sanity not Hannity please (hey it's monday morning)

It's understandable that this is the outside impression you may get, but as a U.S. insider, I can assure you that it seems the vast majority of us are staring in just as much wide-eyed amazement at these crazies as you are. I mean seriously - "birthers"? "Death panels"? Comparisons to Hitler? The main difference now seems to me that these people are flipping out over the fact that we suddenly have a President who's trying to shift us into the 21st century where health, energy, international relations, and many other fundamental issues are concerned, and holy crap - did I mention that this President is BLACK?!?!?! So basically, some older white people think they're losing their country, and they're having tantrums about it. All they can think to do is shout down the opposition, invent wild conspiracy theories, try to foment fear as a means to their ends. But I don't think they're fooling as many people as they used to be able to.

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Sean

Comparisons to Hitler?

*shifts silently off stage..... *

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Are we shocked?

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009...rance-indutry/


I'm not.