Michael Jackson was a child-molester - non-mourning thread...

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ

/ /|/|/: Are you promoting a book that we'll need to buy in order to find out the asterisk(!) footnote?

you got me for bad editing there...


...but that's not a bad idea...

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

What exactly is the point? Nobody is debating that it's inappropriate.

it's piss-poor to be glossing over it just because it happens to concern the most famous man on the planet.

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

it's piss-poor to be glossing over it just because it happens to concern the most famous man on the planet.

Don't worry there are plenty of people like you who get excited pissing all over everything in this world...

Nobody's really glossing over it. Do you live in an alternate universe where celebrity sex scandals are ignored? Pretty much every article or special I've seen on the man lately at least mentions it. Most people prefer to remember the recently deceased for the good things. People joke about Jackson a lot but it's not really discussed anymore because most people are sick of it and no matter how you slice it there's really no hard evidence. If he was found guilty it's another story. Still I guess you're living proof that an accusation is enough to condemn a person. Guilty 'till proven innocent.

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

Don't worry there are plenty of people like you who get excited pissing all over everything in this world...

eh?! you asked a question, i answered it. what do you mean by that nonsense? if you want to debate, let's do it. but i think you need to calm down somewhat, mister - the dark side is clouding your argumenting somewhat...

[/QUOTE]Nobody's really glossing over it.[/QUOTE]

eh?! (again!) you'd certainly like to, it appears!

Do you live in an alternate universe where celebrity sex scandals are ignored?

yeah; me know fuck-all.

Pretty much every article or special I've seen on the man lately at least mentions it.

wonder why?

Most people prefer to remember the recently deceased for the good things.

aaah; those 'most people'. and yes, 'most people' do do what you say. but i also contend that 'most people' also remember child molesters as being sick fuckers and don't really miss them when they pop their clogs.

People joke about Jackson a lot but it's not really discussed anymore because most people are sick of it

aaaah (again!) - those 'most people' are back - and now they're sick of it, dammit! funnily enough, i haven't met a single one of these 'most people'. the 'most people' i've met think he was a child-molester. then again; 'most people' i know are parents too...

and no matter how you slice it there's really no hard evidence. If he was found guilty it's another story. Still I guess you're living proof that an accusation is enough to condemn a person. Guilty 'till proven innocent.

he wasn't found not guilty either, remember. he was in a position to pay to have the trial disappear - poof! like magic! i think that speaks louder for his guilt than his innocence.

you think otherwise - good for ya - you're not going to change my view, i'm not going to change yours. for a happy mourning, don't dine here. please.

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Originally Posted by IsiliRunite

You're a vegetable.

who? me?

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(ooh, it's like the old daisies in world, innit!)

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

eh?! you asked a question, i answered it. what do you mean by that nonsense? if you want to debate, let's do it. but i think you need to calm down somewhat, mister - the dark side is clouding your argumenting somewhat...

eh?! (again!) you'd certainly like to, it appears!



yeah; me know fuck-all.



wonder why?



aaah; those 'most people'. and yes, 'most people' do do what you say. but i also contend that 'most people' also remember child molesters as being sick fuckers and don't really miss them when they pop their clogs.



aaaah (again!) - those 'most people' are back - and now they're sick of it, dammit! funnily enough, i haven't met a single one of these 'most people'. the 'most people' i've met think he was a child-molester. then again; 'most people' i know are parents too...



he wasn't found not guilty either, remember. he was in a position to pay to have the trial disappear - poof! like magic! i think that speaks louder for his guilt than his innocence.

you think otherwise - good for ya - you're not going to change my view, i'm not going to change yours. for a happy mourning, don't dine here. please.

Ahh, I didn't know that was how you were answering the question. I mean what's the point of asking a question if you know the answer? True or false could I break into your house if I didn't steal anything?

I'm not saying we should gloss over it. I'm just saying I don't see any of it as relevant to the point where THAT is the first thing I think of when people mention MJ. As for "most people" - for the first trial, a poll came out revealing that showed that 80% of the public did not believe he actually did it.

I don't really like the tone implication of "if you don't have children, you don't understand how bad this is". I know damn well how bad this is.

Of course he wasn't ruled to be not "not guilty". He was acquitted on the second trial. There wasn't going to be a way to prove him 100% innocent but that's no fault of his own. The fact that he settled does imply guilt; but it's not hard to see why, if he was innocent, he would still settle. I don't believe it because the media is powerful and they tried really really hard to get a guilty verdict and still could not. That speaks a lot.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Could you two have beer now or something? But not together, because then you boys get stupid and beat each other up.

I'm gonna hit some whiskey! It's after noon already, so I don't meet the def. of an alcoholic.

You two do the same!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

a grown man* says that he sees nothing wrong with sharing his bed with young boys.

straw poll - do you let your son hang out with him?

simple question - yes or no answers ONLY at this stage - NO QUALIFYING, IF'S BUT'S OR MAYBE'S please.

No, I don't personally let my son hang out with him. But that still doesn't prove he was anything more than out of touch with reality. Who knows, maybe he did molest young boys, but you and I have no way of knowing that, and he was never found guilty of it. Not sure how you can be so confident about it.

[Rog]

Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

Not taking it personally. Just don't like being called a hypocrite, that's all. To hear someone say, essentially, "I'm glad he's dead" about a musician you like is offensive. Sorry.

we're not glad he's dead! just fed up with hearing how wonderful he was - when he obviously wasn't. i find that offensive........

and the rest of the post is pretty irrelevent being as 1. shoplifting and child molestation are not comparable and 2. computer hacking and child molestation are not comparable crimes either. The title of the thread tells you everything. You would be better off going back to the appreciation thread ............