AREWEFASCISTORNOT

[Rog]

i really like the bit where the female copper tries to intimidate him with the "what did you just say?" line........i was half expecting her to say " you called me a bastard didn't you, you're nicked"

This legislation should not be passed without some sort of protest! soon it will be illegal to photograph coppers illegally beating up innocent or passive people

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by Rog

This legislation should not be passed without some sort of protest! soon it will be illegal to photograph coppers illegally beating up innocent or passive people

which is really funny to me, considering there are more cameras on the streets of the UK than pretty much any other nation, but the blokes with all the cameras can't be photographed? Also, when has there ever been a time when cops were targeted by terrorists due to their being photographed. ANd how many times have cops found themselves in trouble because everyone at the protests thought to bring their camera phone with them to capture all the billy clubs being lodged in people's arses? Makes you wonder what is the driving force of this bill, dunnit?

[BeautifulBurnout]

They are getting embarrased by the numbers of clips making it to youtube showing them to be, at best, incompetent idiots and, at worst, complete thugs.

What is marvellous about the CCTV system we have here is that, 9 times out of 10 when you view it there is nothing on it that is useful to the prosecution case, and every time a defendant asks for it to prove his defence, the camera is mysteriously pointing the other way, or else they have not managed to seize the recording before it got recorded over again.

[Rog]

so, soon in our wonderful democratic country you could take a picture of the police intimidating someone and be arrested and held without trial for 28 days(?) under the prevention of terrorism act

and they want legislation to increase the time you can be held without trial to 90 days! wtf are we coming to........

[IsiliRunite]

Can I be the American who is going to post all these pictures, beyond UK jurisdiction!?!

[bryantm3]

I <3 AMERICA

[Strangelet]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

I <3 AMERICA

um i'm not sure you live in as much of a beacon of freedom as you think. We incarcerate over 3 million people in this country, that's 1% of the entire freaking population. That's 1 in 100 people, man.

What's worse is some people are getitng rich off of this.

case in point...

Judge Mark A. Ciavarella and former Senior Judge Michael T. Conahan are accused of taking $2.6 million for sending children to two facilities owned by Pittsburgh businessman Greg Zappala

that's just the tip of the ice berg. god knows how many state legislators have been bought off by private prison firms to up the probability that any given person goes to jail and therefore causes a check from the state to be printed and made out to Society Solutions LLC, INC, LTD.

this thread was meant to describe the race to the bottom for both nations. i'm sure I'll find more evidence of fascism in our midst.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09035/946743-454.stm

She said the punishment was excessive and that it traumatized her son, a first-time offender who was expecting community service or a fine for punishing another boy last year. Instead, he was taken from the courtroom in shackles and brought to Camp Adams, where he was beaten by other teenagers, forced to wear ripped clothes four sizes too big and permitted visitors only twice a month for an hour, she said.

[Rog]

That is dreadful!

what depths will our wonderful freedom loving democratic peoples sink to next?

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Strangelet

um i'm not sure you live in as much of a beacon of freedom as you think. We incarcerate over 3 million people in this country, that's 1% of the entire freaking population. That's 1 in 100 people, man.

What's worse is some people are getitng rich off of this.

case in point...

that's just the tip of the ice berg. god knows how many state legislators have been bought off by private prison firms to up the probability that any given person goes to jail and therefore causes a check from the state to be printed and made out to Society Solutions LLC, INC, LTD.

this thread was meant to describe the race to the bottom for both nations. i'm sure I'll find more evidence of fascism in our midst.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09035/946743-454.stm

in no way do i imply that we're perfect; we're far from it. but i do love my country enough to speak out against injustices within it; such as above. i love my country—not necessarily its policies.