Final results thread

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Future Proof

I'm looking forward to seeing Dubya do an occasional photo-op here and there, and enjoying his retirement.

i look forward to History books ripping him a new asshole and his name being associated with the words Worst President Ever.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by Deckard

I just tell myself these are no more than the death throes of anti-gay attitudes*, not a long-term trend.

The day will come eventually. Women, blacks, gays..... progress ultimately moves in a decidedly liberal direction. Those who hate eventually find themselves on the wrong side of history. The important thing is not to give up hope.

(*EDIT: with a footnote that a few of those opposing gay marriage would not necessarily see themselves as anti-gay)

STFU Deckard.

I do have a problem when the same anti-gay do not even let an individual marry their hands down. But I'm a rebel like that.

[dubman]

i think people should quote you on things that dont make sense instead of letting it slide because yr supposed to be the kooky one.

like this

the same anti-gay do not even let an individual marry their hands down

what the fuck are you talking about

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by dubman

i think people should quote you on things that dont make sense instead of letting it slide because yr supposed to be the kooky one.

like this



what the fuck are you talking about

AAin't no denyin'. At least not with me.

Run along now dubman, nothing to see here. Run along now, go, go, run along.

[Deckard]

Another lost in translation moment.

Side-splitting.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Another lost in translation moment.

Side-splitting.

Love making ya giggle.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Deckard

I just tell myself these are no more than the death throes of anti-gay attitudes*, not a long-term trend.

The day will come eventually. Women, blacks, gays..... progress ultimately moves in a decidedly liberal direction. Those who hate eventually find themselves on the wrong side of history. The important thing is not to give up hope.

I do hope you're right. But even if you are, I hate the fact that those who have recently been married are stuck in limbo now. They don't know what this means for them - will their marriages stand, or be nullified? The last I heard this morning is that no one knows for sure. It's incredibly narrow-minded and disappointing to me that a majority of people who voted actually feel it's right to have language in our state constitution that literally strips a group of rights. The amendment specifically says that it "Changes California Constitution to eliminate right of same-sex couples to marry." Shouldn't we be past the era where we constitutionally strip people of their rights? I mean, I realize that many laws technically strip people of rights. Like I don't have the right in California to drive without wearing my seat belt, or while I'm pounding back a beer, but that's a far cry from telling people that they don't have the right to publicly affirm their loving relationship by celebrating it through the commitment of marriage.

Originally Posted by Deckard

(*EDIT: with a footnote that a few of those opposing gay marriage would not necessarily see themselves as anti-gay)

This is true, and yet their support of prop 8 still hurts people by stripping them of their rights just as equally as the prop 8 support coming from people who are motivated by bigotry.

It's just another all-around disappointing display of where we are (or, more appropriately, aren't) as a society in my view.

[cured]

AP just called North Carolina for Obama. That should leave the final tally at 364.

[gambit]

North Carolina has now gone to Obama. Obama 364, McCain 173.

In the Oregon Senate race, it appears Democrat Merkley won, putting the current Senate total (minus the results of three seats) at Democrats 57, Republicans 40 (according to NBC/MSNBC).

[Deckard]

You guys are too quick, I was just coming to do that!