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Old 09-09-2008, 02:13 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
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Wow. Not only do I understand jOHN's reply - I also agree with it!

I reserve a tiny sliver of hope that this will be pointed at by the mainstream media as an example of Palin's lack of qualifications to be VP, but I'm pretty certain that the Republicans will claim that questioning this statement is somehow demeaning to Palin as a woman, and it'll drop out of the news pretty quickly.
Fuckin' sexist pig.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:52 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
One word:

Rednecks.

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We represent at least a third of all voters and no US president has ever been elected without our support.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/7600592.stm

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And that is one of the reasons that, mystifying as it is to the outside world, John McCain's choice of the moose-shooting Alaskan woman with the pregnant unmarried teen daughter appeals to many redneck and working class Americans.
*shudder*

That word 'elitist' is getting a LOT of air time this election. Palin will milk that for everything it's worth.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
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One word:

Rednecks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/7600592.stm

*shudder*

That word 'elitist' is getting a LOT of air time this election. Palin will milk that for everything it's worth.
Yeah, that sounds about accurate to me. Although the author omits a glaring consideration in this election for a good portion of rednecks, which is racism.

I'm not trying to play any race-card here, I'm just acknowledging what I've seen with my own eyes. I've watched my wife - a beautiful woman who's heritage is Korean, and who was born and raised in the Baltimore area, then moved with her family to L.A. when she was in her teens - be on the receiving end of racist comments and gestures for literally no reason. I've seen the stretched-eye gesture thrown her way, I've heard people yell "go back to your country", and on and on. And the most surprising thing about that is, it's all happened in either L.A., or the liberal state I grew up in, Massachusetts. And of course she had to listen to taunts of "ching-chong-ching" throughout her childhood, but it's the contemporary, adult examples that have floored me the most.

So I can only imagine what the reaction to a black nominee for president in the deep south is. I mean, just today, this article came out. Here's an excerpt:

Adam LaDuca, 21, the former executive director of the Pennsylvania Federation of College Republicans, wrote on his Facebook page in late July that Obama has "a pair of lips so large he could float half of Cuba to the shores of Miami (and probably would.)"

LaDuca, who previously had called Martin Luther King Jr. a "pariah" and a "fraud," also wrote: "And man, if sayin' someone has large lips is a racial slur, then we're ALL in trouble."

It's a huge obstacle, and Obama has been admirable in his handling of the situation - especially when compared directly with the cries of sexism the Republicans are shouting in regards to Palin.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
yeah i think gaffes like this only make an impact if they accumulate to form the impression of woeful ineptitude.
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
Its very easy to rile support from the poor by denouncing the faceless, irresponsible, soulless rich!

I think Governor status of Alaska might be false reputation not only among voters, but also misleading experience for her own confidence if she were elected office. Its apples and pomegranates between Alaska and the federal district...

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Old 09-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: sarah palin?
Palin certainly has balls.


LEBANON, Ohio (CNN) – Sarah Palin refuses to yield on her claim that she opposed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere earmark, despite charges by the Obama campaign that her assertion is a "lie."

"I told Congress thanks but no thanks for that Bridge to Nowhere," Palin said Tuesday in Lebanon, Ohio.

Though Palin recently came out against the completion of the Gravina Island Bridge, she initially supported the project as governor before it became a national symbol of wasteful pork barrel spending. In 2007, Palin’s office cancelled work on the bridge, but Alaska still kept the federal funds that were allocated for state transportation projects.

In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in earmarks, and in a Fairbanks newspaper column earlier this year, she wrote that federal monies, including earmarks, are “incredibly important” to the state. Palin also helped secure millions of dollars in federal money for her hometown of Wasilla while she was mayor.

Nevertheless, Palin told the outdoor audience in Ohio — many of whom came out in spite of the rain – that she was a champion of earmark reform in Alaska.



And from a new Wall Street Journal article:


Why is this one issue (earmarks) such a big deal? Sen. McCain's anti-earmarks stance has been paramount to his campaign. The Arizona senator has blamed everything from the Minneapolis bridge collapse to Hurricane Katrina on Congress's willingness to stuff bills full of pork barrel spending.

As such, Gov. Palin's image as a "reformer" is part of the storyline the McCain campaign needs to complement the top of its ticket. Her quip about passing on the bridge and "building it ourselves" has been a staple of her stump....

.....At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.



Clearly, the Republicans are absolutely right and truthful about at least one thing - for many people, this election will not be about the issues. If it was, Palin would be getting laughed back to Alaska by all....
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:31 PM
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sarah palin?
wait a second! YOU MEAN I'M NOT SEXIST AFTER ALL?!?!?!

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Men's support gives Palin edge in latest poll

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- When it comes to support for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, a new national poll suggests men and women don't see eye to eye.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday indicates that 62 percent of men questioned have a favorable opinion of the Alaska governor, nine points higher than women.

In the poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, entirely after the end of the Republican convention, 23 percent of men have an unfavorable view of Sen. John McCain's running mate, seven points lower than women.

The gender gap is also apparent when it comes to whether Palin is qualified to serve as president. Fifty-seven percent of male respondents said Palin was qualified, 14 points higher than women. A majority of women polled, 55 percent, said Palin is not qualified.

Overall, 50 percent of all respondents think Palin is qualified to serve as president, compared with 70 percent who see the Democratic nominee for vice president, Sen. Joe Biden, as qualified. Video Watch how Palin is boosting McCain's campaign ยป

Is it fair to raise questions about her experience?

"A majority of women say yes, but it's close; men are slightly less likely to see those questions as fair game," said CNN polling director Keating Holland.


Overall, 50 percent of those polled say criticism of Palin is fair, with 45 percent saying it's only because she is a woman. iReport.com: Share your thoughts on Palin

In 1984, when Democratic Rep. Geraldine Ferraro of New York became the first female running mate on a major party ticket, only 27 percent said criticism of her was fair.

In the current poll, 57 percent overall had a favorable opinion of Palin, six points higher than Biden.

What would happen if Americans could cast separate votes for president and vice president?

Palin would top Biden "by a 53 to 44 percent margin, based largely on the votes of men," Holland said.
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"In a hypothetical race with no running mates, [Sen. Barack] Obama gets 49 percent and McCain gets 48 percent," he said. "In the real world, the McCain/Palin ticket and the Obama/Biden ticket are tied at 48 percent apiece, indicating that the running mates bring virtually no votes to the ticket by themselves."

Poll-takers questioned 1,022 people by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.
i bolded the part that made my brain melt and fall out of my ear.

i think we'll see some of these numbers drop off after we clear the post-convention bounce.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:33 PM
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Re: sarah palin?
actually, this may have been more suitable in this thread.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:46 PM
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Re: sarah palin?
fixed!

gee you mean to tell me that it's mostly dudes who are all about this BODACIOUS BABE WITH GUNS AND GOD AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU JUST HATE THE WRONG KIND OF WOMAN???

gooooooo figure.

i dont see palins figures going down much, sadly. once the republicans have their teeth sunk into a tactic they wont let go and they'll push it as hard as they can. it's going to take a lot of missteps if the popular impression of palin as a game-changer is finally going to fall to "wtf is this campaign thinking" status that should have always been there.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: sarah palin?
this is a great example of how to be a Reformer, Palin style:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_...nges_0909.html

quick summary: Major General Campbell says that Palin does not have much of a role in the National Guard on Sep. 3, then 2 days later changes his entire stance, then gets a nice promotion afterwards.
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