Obama selects Joe Biden

[Sean]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

I'm thrilled with the choice, personally.

[Troy McClure]

I participated in the text message delivery. The text is as follows:

'Barack has chosen Senator Joe Biden to our VP nominee. Watch the first Obama - Biden rally live at 3pm ET on www.BarackObama.com. Spread the word!'

The message came at 12:53am Phoenix time.

I'm happy Senator Biden is the nominee. Now, it's business time. Jason

[IsiliRunite]

The only thing I have against Biden was that he said, during congressional hearings on the subject, that stun grenades used during the siege of the Branch Davidian compound weren't strong enough to blow your hand off if activated and not disposed of. LOL Not really surprising that a democrat isn't too familiar with items of self defense, but he doesn't shy away from acting like an expert on the topic.

Based on this and other instances, this guy reminds me of me 5 years ago, and that is sad because I am only 19 years old. Back then, I used to believe that much of things that I today realize are opinions, potential models, or hypothesis about the world were facts that did not have to be reasoned through and proven with observable evidence. In other words, I may not dislike too many of his policies, but I am disappointed about how self-righteous and crabby he seems to be. I haven't seen anything to make me believe he is "thinking" as much as he is merely re-arranging his prejudices. In America, though, this isn't too uncommon; we have 2 of the one billion view points represented 99.9% of the time as the "obvious" choices.

Something to concern everyone: Mr. Biden was visably annoyed during the debates with members of his OWN party; how able is he to work together and understand the points of view of people he most likely thinks are total fucking morons, in the Republican party? (added the bold just to remind you that I don't think any Democrat or Republican is a "moron" just because they are a Democrat or Republican)

Wish he could read/acknowledge the supreme wisdom of the constitution, too; he is very anti-second amendment. It is often too easy to side with the constitution, thankfully, but if you'd like to throw up a thread and duke it out I am game.

[Deckard]

Some interesting points there IsiliRunite. Despite that, I'd say it still represented a fairly safe (or at least safe as in 'reasonably predictable') choice. Although they're more well-known, a Kerry, Clinton or Gore would have been very shocking.

Oh and this was predictable too...

The McCain camp called the choice of Mr Biden an admission by Barack Obama that he was not ready to be president. "Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgement and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realising - that Barack Obama is not ready to be president," McCain campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said in a statement.

I don't know; to me, that just seems even more opportunistic and ungracious than even I expected from them (cue: quip from jOHN about Republicans' nastiness knowing no limits... ). I fear that's going to be one of the problems that this choice highlights - people will be wondering why the experienced, and somewhat more reassuring guy - the (if you'll excuse the phony phrase) commander-in-chief - isn't the one at the top of the ticket. (Do people really generally vote for them as teams, joint strengths?) Not to mention people are already drawing the comparison between Obama's desire to separate himself from Washington insiders, and, umm, this Washington insider.

Btw, let's hope they don't get him writing any speeches. (Some have referred to his tendency to waffle. Well he certainly took inspiration from the master on that one...!)

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by Sean

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

I'm thrilled with the choice, personally.

well you know i'm thrilled. he was my presidential choice and i've finally gone from lukewarm about this election to hopeful.

i was woken up this morning by an email with this news as the subject. a fantastic way to wake up, if you're someone who supported biden in the primaries and still believe in his platform.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Word up.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Oh and this was predictable too...

The McCain camp called the choice of Mr Biden an admission by Barack Obama that he was not ready to be president. "Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgement and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realising - that Barack Obama is not ready to be president," McCain campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said in a statement.

I don't know; to me, that just seems even more opportunistic and ungracious than even I expected from them.

What's strange to me about this line of attack is that isn't Romney the most likely VP for McCain, or at least one of them? So if he picks Romney, won't there be a wealth of comments from when he was campaigning against McCain that the Democrats could use exactly the same way? It just seems like the Republicans are setting themselves up on this one...

Originally Posted by Deckard

I fear that's going to be one of the problems that this choice highlights - people will be wondering why the experienced, and somewhat more reassuring guy - the (if you'll excuse the phony phrase) commander-in-chief - isn't the one at the top of the ticket. (Do people really generally vote for them as teams, joint strengths?) Not to mention people are already drawing the comparison between Obama's desire to separate himself from Washington insiders, and, umm, this Washington insider.

I'm guessing that they'll begin addressing much of this in their first joint appearance in a couple hours. It'll be interesting to see the plan of attack unfolding.

Originally Posted by cacophony

well you know i'm thrilled. he was my presidential choice and i've finally gone from lukewarm about this election to hopeful.

Yeah, I always associate Biden with you since you were the first one who really drew my attention to him earlier in the primaries. I figured you'd be pleased.

[gambit]

Good choice in my opinion. But did anyone notice how much idiotic coverage Obama's VP choice got? They had cameras set up at like three people's houses for days! Even after Bayh and the VA Governor (forgot his name) were confirmed to not be the VP.

Good choice by Obama; lunacy by the media.

[cured]

Rush Limbaugh was hoping Biden would be selected because the republican slime machine has a lot of quotes to use against him. Political coverage is high school to an exponential degree and there are plenty of retards out there who's vote will be decided on sound bites that have absolutely nothing to do with policy. Gotta love this country.

[Troy McClure]

Originally Posted by Sean

What's strange to me about this line of attack is that isn't Romney the most likely VP for McCain, or at least one of them? So if he picks Romney, won't there be a wealth of comments from when he was campaigning against McCain that the Democrats could use exactly the same way? It just seems like the Republicans are setting themselves up on this one...

Agreed, but McCain's campaign doesn't seem to have a strategy laid out for more than 3 days. So I don't think it's a surprise. Romney and McCain really butted head on some stuff during the debates.

Example 1 from June 15th South Carolina debate via New York Times:
This week their arguments over immigration prompted Mr. McCain to suggest acidly that Mr. Romney’s solution might be “to get out his small-varmint gun and drive those Guatemalans off his lawn.”

McCain also made it a habit to try to portray Romney as a flip-flopper and of wanting to set a time-table for withdrawal from Iraq.

--Jason