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Old 08-01-2008, 08:38 PM
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work that fuckin lot of smilies out..... that = me
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:20 PM
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work that fuckin lot of smilies out..... that = me
Are you being smartass?

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Old 08-04-2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: The Low Road Express
Anyway.

Just a big WTF?!

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John McCain's change to more open attacks on his rival seems to be paying off dramatically as the latest poll showed he had managed to draw level with Barack Obama.
Enough to make you cry.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:42 AM
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Re: The Low Road Express
It boggles the mind. I don't trust polls any more at all. They can't possibly reflect reality in this case, can they?

On a side note, I thought John Kerry actually made a damn good joke at a fundraising event:

“I don’t know if you know this, John McCain is looking for someone for vice president who has more economic expertise than he does. So congratulations to all of you, you’re on the short list.”
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:40 AM
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Re: The Low Road Express
I'm not going to start a new thread just for this, but I thought it was kinda funny.

Speaking to reporters about the situation in Georgia, Sen. John McCain denounced the aggressive posture of Russia by claiming that:"in the 21st century nations don't invade other nations."

I know, an easy laugh, but sometimes they're the best.

(Btw, don't know about anyone else, but I'm holding off posting about Georgia while I try to cut through the propaganda and figure out what exactly is what... )
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:27 AM
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I'm not going to start a new thread just for this, but I thought it was kinda funny.

Speaking to reporters about the situation in Georgia, Sen. John McCain denounced the aggressive posture of Russia by claiming that:"in the 21st century nations don't invade other nations."

I know, an easy laugh, but sometimes they're the best.
That was a pretty impressive display, wasn't it? All I can imagine is that he forgot to say, "except us....sorry, I thought that was a given".

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(Btw, don't know about anyone else, but I'm holding off posting about Georgia while I try to cut through the propaganda and figure out what exactly is what... )
So glad to hear you say that. Yesterday, I read completely contrasting articles like this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._terrible.html

and this:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7863e71a-6...nclick_check=1

I tend to think there's some truth to both stances, but I don't know what that truth might be yet....
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:49 AM
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So glad to hear you say that. Yesterday, I read completely contrasting articles like this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._terrible.html

and this:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7863e71a-6...nclick_check=1

I tend to think there's some truth to both stances, but I don't know what that truth might be yet....
I just don't know either. There was a piece by Gorbachev in the Washington Post a few days ago. Sounded convincing to me, but then how can I take the word of a former president as unbiased?!

Anyway, back on topic, did anyone hear about these original memo's from the Clinton campaign being leaked to Atlantic.com recently? You can see the whole list here. Quite a scoop.

This one's particularly insightful, written by her chief strategist Mark Penn. Essentially it shows how it was an explicit part of Hillary's strategy to target the idea that Obama is basically a foreigner.

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All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared towards showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting that in a new light.

Save it for 2050.

It also exposes a very strong weakness for him—his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited.

I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values. He told the people of NH yesterday he has a Kansas accent because his mother was from there. His mother lived in many states as far as we can tell—but this is an example of the nonsense he uses to cover this up.

How we could give some life to this contrast without turning negative:

Every speech should contain the line you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century. And talk about the basic bargain as about the deeply American values you grew up with, learned as a child and that drive you today. Values of fairness, compassion, responsibility, giving back.

Let’s explicitly own ‘American’ in our programs, the speeches and the values. He doesn’t. Make this a new American Century, the American Strategic Energy Fund. Let’s use our logo to make some flags we can give out. Let’s add flag symbols to the backgrounds.
Course it's what we suspected all along, but useful to have it documented.

Another one by Penn from 2006 insists that Hillary must be "more Thatcher than anything else". Trust me, that's the last thing America (and the world) needs!
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: The Low Road Express
What a disgusting approach to campaigning. Absolutely no respect for the "melting pot" ideals that this country was meant to be built upon. "Mighty woman" my ass.
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:05 PM
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And incidentally, there's a new video starting to make the rounds that . Could be pretty effective.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: The Low Road Express
i honestly can't vote for the ultimate pander-bear politician.

he might as well say stuff like he is THE cure for cancer and has the ability to reverse global warming to go along with his bragging of winning wars and also be THE guy that will find and defeat Bin Laden.
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