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[TheBang]

Originally Posted by pandamagic

isn't the 8:20 version also called "change?" that's what it says on the tracklist for "wasted."

These both say "Why Why Why":

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Waste.../release/89013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasted:...Volume,_Part_I

However, what you say sounds familiar, and I did find at least one listing that had it listed as "Change". If there are any that say that, I'd lean towards that being an error that was corrected in later pressings.

it is a structurally different mix than the 12:14, not just an early fade. my apologies if this has been mentioned already.

Yes, I believe the 5:16 version that appears on Volume Eight is also structurally different.

[industri_studios]

Originally Posted by TheBang

However, what you say sounds familiar, and I did find at least one listing that had it listed as "Change". If there are any that say that, I'd lean towards that being an error that was corrected in later pressings.

Don't have Volume 8 so can't confirm - but just checked the CD for Wasted, and it definitely lists the song as Change on the back of the CD case (don't have the book handy)...

For what it's worth, anyways.

[DwarfeD]

Originally Posted by industri_studios

Don't have Volume 8 so can't confirm - but just checked the CD for Wasted, and it definitely lists the song as Change on the back of the CD case (don't have the book handy)...

I do have the booklet that came with it and it is mentioned there as "Why Why Why?".
Additional info:

Taken from Volume Eight (November 1993)
remix of track from limited promo 12-inch
produced by Underworld
engineered by Steve Dubb at Da Da Studios, Romford

So it was definitely erroneously listed as "Change" on the back of the CD.

[negative1]

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rowla A1806 03:58 cd
rowla (album) 06:31 v, cd, cs
rowla (live) 07:47 dvd
rowla (long version) 08:40 v
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second hand (edit of 'thing in a book') 9:01 cd, v, cs, dig
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skym (album) 04:08 v, cd, cs, md
skym (A A1317 Nov 97) 4:54 cd, dig
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something like a mama (album) 06:37 v, cd, cs, md
something like a mama (alt mix A1340 July 98 A Upstairs) 10:10 cd, dig
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spikee 12:34 v, cd, dig
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spoonman (album) 07:42 v, cd, cs, bad
spoonman (version1 A1559 Nov92) 10:03 cd, dig
spoonman (live jam kyme rd) 18:03 cd, dig
spoon deep 17:53 v, cd
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stagger (album) 07:38 v, cd, cs
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surfboy (album) 07:34 v, cd, cs, bad
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techno thang 06:26 cd, dig
tongue (album) 04:50 v, cd, cs, bad
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thing in a book 20:12 v, cd
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uw orange bed (Sept97) 7:01 cd, dig
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why? why? why? 05:15 cd
why? why? why? (wasted mix) 08:20 v, cd
why why why (extended) 12:14 v, cd, dig
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winjer (album) 04:29 v, cd, cs, md
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yeah plan (from A1385) 4:11 cd, dig
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1.05
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+ fixes for vinyl only tracks
+ added tracks from beaucoup fish super deluxe
+ added bluray audio format and tracks

1.04
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+ made fixes to various times


1.03
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added tracks from deluxe second toughest in the infants
- unreleased tracks
- live tracks and demos


1.02
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added from deluxe dubnobasswithmyheadman:
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demo tracks
live tracks

added from anthology:
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added all digital tracks to formats
added long version of jumbo
added tracks from bonus disc - the big meat show, the hump
added all new 2011 edits - dark and long, mmm skyscraper, and rez

promoted to list:
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3 additions/*DEMO/PROMO status
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can u feel me 04:25 dat*
organ 06:19 dat*
river of bass (promo) 09:06 dat*

please feel free to post additions and corrections,
and i will credit you below...

thanx

later
-1

also

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sources           : yj, lazlo, jpt, mvw
transcription     : zero, -1
research          : zero, -1
layout            : generic Designs
text              : textDesignersRepublic
concept           : uw
thanx             : uw, yj, gc, zhen, mvw, cj, cscott, thebang, mark3
(c)               : 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,
                    2006,2011,2014,2015,2016,2017 generic Designs
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[TheBang]

OK, for Jim Hopkins, to be honest, I'm not sure. Here's some more info on it:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Twitch+Recordings
http://www.discogs.com/release/29345

So, after reading that, I guess it's a DJ mix. However, I had added it to my collection, because it was listed on these discogs:

http://www.lowculture.com/transmissi...rd/disco2.html
http://www.bigscreensatellite.co.uk/tracklistings.htm

[negative1]

Originally Posted by TheBang

OK, for Jim Hopkins, to be honest, I'm not sure. Here's some more info on it:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Twitch+Recordings
http://www.discogs.com/release/29345

yeah, i'm pretty sure its a dj remix

So, after reading that, I guess it's a DJ mix. However, I had added it to my collection, because it was listed on these discogs:

http://www.lowculture.com/transmissi...rd/disco2.html
http://www.bigscreensatellite.co.uk/tracklistings.htm

that first site by jpt is awesome!

thats what first started getting me into underworld,
and i wondered where all those releases came from!!!!

later i found gc sites, and then yannicks..

man that was ages ago...

thanks for all the info..

now we have to work on the uw MK3 updates..

later
-1

[TheBang]

Well, whaddya know. I threw Minneapolis into a tempo/pitch changer, and sped it up, and it sounds just like the Jim Hopkins "Remix". OK, I'm removing it from my collection now.

Edit: Ack, I can't even stand to listen to it anymore. It sounds like a total bastardization of the original to me now.

[negative1]

ok, i agree with all the talk about the
digital releases, yes it should reflect
all formats..

some of the mixes you mentioned
are available on promo cds..

i don't have most of this material,
so thats why there's so much
uncertainty and wrong with it..

well, good that's what we're trying
to fix..

does anybody have the technical
skills for the wiki?

i'm about 2 years behind in internet
years with technology, which means
i'm about 10 years behind in real time
stuff..

no wonder i don't want another
programming job!

later
-1

ok, short of installing software on a server,
i found these two free sites, does anyone
know anything about it? or should i just
jump in..

http://www.schtuff.com/
http://www.JotSpot.com

[negative1]

if you're interested in testing these out,
send me your email, or sign up at the
site : http://www.schtuff.com/

i've put these up:
http://underworld.schtuff.com/underw...gography_v0_03

http://underworld.schtuff.com/underw...ography_v0_99f

http://underworld.schtuff.com/lemon_...gography_v0_01

is that what they are supposed to be like?

later
-1

[TheBang]

It looks like there's another edit of Second Hand out there. I saw it listed on Matt's site, but now I've found which album it's on. It's on Euphoria: Chilled.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...g=UTF8&s=music
http://www.discogs.com/release/38233

It says it's 7:47. However, not having heard it, I can't say whether it's an actual unique edit, or if it's just a DJ mix of the 9:01 track. If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably a DJ mix. Does anyone know if the Euphoria series are mix albums?

Oh, and I went back and listened to Second Hand 9:01 again. It's a genuinely different edit, not just a fade-out of Thing in a Book. In fact, it's a lot more down-tempo and ambient than Thing in a Book.