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Old 09-17-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
anyone in this thread mention yet how people hate being wrong and all the 'secret muslim' crap from before november has just found a new avenue along with giving regular cons an excuse to get pissy without it looking like racism?

people with batshit opinions form one or five or ten years ago dont go away, they just restructure the same thing.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:16 AM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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anyone in this thread mention yet how people hate being wrong and all the 'secret muslim' crap from before november has just found a new avenue along with giving regular cons an excuse to get pissy without it looking like racism?

people with batshit opinions form one or five or ten years ago dont go away, they just restructure the same thing.
The "secret Muslim" stuff hasn't gone away amazingly enough. You can still see it on display at that Cured linked, and you can see it from one of . More specifically, he called Obama an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief", and then defended this statement by saying "...that's the way he's behaving!"

I've never seen anything like this in the U.S.A. on such proud display during my lifetime.
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:56 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:



Another glaringly racist interview:




Good God, the racists are coming out of the fucking woodwork...and Obama's not even an "official member", so fucking biased that CFR is. I mean even Angelina Jolie is an official member, how racist!:





How dare this racist whitey clarify a freudian slip?!?:






Bottom line, just remember that ONLY white people can be racists and liars!

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Old 09-27-2009, 02:56 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
ho ho ho


ohhh, if anyone still gives a shit about this thread this is gonna be good.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:24 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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ho ho ho
ohhh, if anyone still gives a shit about this thread this is gonna be good.
this thread? Its the entire fucking country that's turned into redneck theatre's presentation of "how far can I shove my head up my ass and not pass out."

My born again boss at lunch just explained to us that Barrack means "lightning" and bama means sky in aramaic, the language of jesus christ, and that in matthew it says that satan will come in the form of lightning from the sky. All I could choke out is well I guess that's worse than being born in Kenya.

Chances are things will end up more despotic at the end of this, and the dollar really does have the ability to utterly collapse to a point where it will have to just be replaced, and there is a chance that what replaces it will be multinational. But I don't blame anyone for this more than I do people like Mongoose. Its on their shoulders because they simply *refuse* to go off script and actually face reality. NO no, its too much fun looking for subliminimiminibabable messages. The only comfort is the loons end up turning on themselves, like this quality video giving air tight proof that Ron Paul is just a NWO patsy to give the illusion that people of mongoose's ilk has a political ally.




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Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:
its pretty obvious he's laughing at people like you
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:10 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.
any form of degenerate dialogue with a shred of plausibility to anyone who cant/wont think critically and takes the "logical path" shown to them will make its way out there by people who can talk really fucking loud. this isnt special to the US, but news has been a business for a long time, and it's obvious that we've gotten very good at fine-tuning these things. "making stuff up" is too diabolical, i dont even think the networks have a political agenda for it. presenting the right balance of actual news with "commentators" to color it as breathlessly as possible tells people whats happening and narrows down the dialogue to keep people tuned in. even if people think theyre smarter and dont buy it, they're talking about it on the network's terms. if people actually go whole hog and believe it, that's even better because those people end up in the street shouting it all back at them.

people are terrible. they were terrible against bush, they are terrible now. you can tell the tea-baggers that Rick Santelli, who originally suggested the "symbolic act" on CNBC, was paid off to lay the astroturf and they'll still think that they didnt just get chumped and made into pawns.

since this is mostly 101 stuff, i'm just saying it so that me also saying that there's something more than just looney tunes at work isnt coming out of the blue. this still feels constructed, albeit differently. it's not the chaos of the news network's L.C.D., it feels more like the networks are the ones being marketed to based on their own formula. like a committee looked out to tap a natural resource of people too pissed off to think straight, sure, but also with a subfocus of exploiting the subtelties of racial relations that cant possibly be understood on a national level without inciting a reverse-victim complex. it works too well.

white guys cannot talk about race
, guys cannot talk about women, able-bodied people cannot talk about the disabled. most cant even address the idea of a cultural minority without soon feeling like they're being attacked, and then arguing with others' own perspective so that theirs still works. lecturing, socratic elenchus, and condescending to give them any other list of reasons because someone obviously needs to be educated. this happens everywhere on the internet and several times here. so: you start talking racism on tv, and do it long enough, the news stories of "white conservatives say it's time for their own empowerment" slime out and the topic will make people who'd rather not address anything substantial roll their eyes out of 'overexposure'. because it's easier to believe that you're just being put upon to feel guilty rather than face the interesting idea that your cultural approach to race, sex, and identity might completely play into a form of oppression. it's not hard to understand overexposure, you keep generating news stories about race, you let the smart and the dumb bat back and forth and make fun of each other, and eventually you kill the dialogue by making the topic fall out of favor.

the astroturf that created what's generously being called a new political party was born out of corporate interest. these interests went through PR firms that went through news channels that became best-sellers. this kind of machination isnt a stretch, but it's definitely "strange" (as the thread title has it) because it's a new level in a very eerie way.

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:03 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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OK.

I realised a long time ago that there are some seriously Loony Tunes people in the States.

I just didn't realise quite how bad it was.

So Obama is the anti-Christ?

FFS.

Those guys are off their heads. Seriously.
Why get concerned about facts now? This is a country where a full third of the population firmly rejects the idea of evolution - far more than in any other western nation. One study found that "the U.S. has a tradition of Protestant fundamentalism not found in Europe that takes the Bible literally and sees the Book of Genesis as an accurate account of the creation of human life." This is basically comparable to refusing to accept that the world is round (or slightly oblong if you want to get technical). So why should Obama get any more consideration than a proven, fundamental process like evolution?

As for Mongoose, I unfortunately hazarded a look at his last post, and I have to wonder who he's arguing against. Did someone here claim that any and all questioning of or opposition to Obama is motivated by racism? Most intelligent people raising racism have been clear that it's likely just one of many factors that influence opposition to Obama's policies. Not even Obama himself has claimed that racism is the overriding, motivating factor. Legitimate, thoughtful, constructive questions and criticisms are great. But the dumb-asses who attend rallies with signs depicting Obama as an African witch-doctor and the like should probably take a moment to look at themselves in the mirror while carrying said sign, and think long and hard about what's actually motivating them. I somehow doubt that in their case, it's a legitimate, thoughtful or constructive question or criticism.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:42 PM
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Re: Strange anger at Obama for Tuesday speech to schools
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Is this interviewer being a racist for questioning why Obama is grinning like a fucking hyena:
i'm not sure i understand why this video was selected to make your point.
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