Do you feel guilty about downloading OwB?

[King of Snake]

someone please bury this thread already

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by holden

You've said this before, and no one's doubting you're a fan who will support the band by paying. But this argument is weak. It would be like saying, i have a shopping cart full of food i'm buying, so i'm entitled to an extra bag of chips. I don't care if you bought 50 copies of the album. Did you pay for the one you downloaded? UW get no money from all the leaked copies. My suggestion is you pay then again for this copy.

This is such a ridiculous comparisson. You can't compare tangible items to sound or speech. It just doesn't work. For your real-world comparisson to work would you would have to make up an impossible analogy: It would be like saying I have magic box of cereal that pours two bowls to every one in the box. I'm paying for the box that the stores stock on the shelves (in fact I pre-ordered my cereal because I love it so much) but since it pours two bowls to every one, I'm going to take a taste now instead of waiting.

Dub's argument is not weak, its dead on. The people that should feel (but probably won't) guilty are the ones that have absolutely no intention of paying for the album. We preach to the choir here because 99% of us buy anything with the Underworld name on it.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

Dub's argument is not weak, its dead on. The people that should feel (but probably won't) guilty are the ones that have absolutely no intention of paying for the album. We preach to the choir here because 99% of us buy anything with the Underworld name on it.

i'd buy that quote right there... it says underworld in it...

how much you want??

[patrick]

i'd sell it for about 30 dollars...

i love the try before buy method. back in the day before this, i constant felt screwed when i'd buy an albumn that would end up being a bunch of shit with the one good track i'd heard previously. now i know what i am going to buy because it is only the albumns that i really enjoyed. do i feel guilty? slightly yes, because there are the fringe albumns that i should buy, but don't because of whatever reason, i didn't like it enough..

obviously underworld is a for sure buy, as I buy everything theat is available to me (with some exception to price for the really rare shit).

[sloff]

I'm resisting temptation so far, but its so hard to wait until mine comes in the mail.
I remember how happy I was when AHDO came out and I bought it in the shop on release day and cracked the package. It was a nice autumn day and the first play in the car was luscious. SO that's what I keep reminding myself about.

[negative1]

ah the price of being a collector,

ok, maybe i'm addicted, because i even buy albums i
don't really like...i didn't care much for 'adho' but i got
it anyway, and yes i bought this album too, but i don't
rank it up there with the 'essential' underworld....but
then again..maybe its too early for that..

-1

[lowbit]

I'd feel a lot clearer about the issue of downloading if it weren't for situations like the one we currently face, where I've paid for the album, people are able to walk into a store in Japan and buy it (with an extra track, no less!), and I still don't have it. Releasing it early in Japan with an extra track is purely manipulative, forcing fans (like most of us here -- the ones who, by the way, often work hard to promote the artist's work to others) to shell out a lot of extra cash if they want to hear all of the music.

I don't like the idea of people downloading my favorite artists' work for nothing, but I'm also bloody sick of shelling out extra hard-earned dough on a regular basis for "maxi-singles" and Japanese and Australian versions with tracks not available in my country. Yeah, it's been going on so long that we're used to it, but that doesn't make it any less arbitrary and exploitive. It's ridiculous.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by patrick

i'd sell it for about 30 dollars...

i love the try before buy method. back in the day before this, i constant felt screwed when i'd buy an albumn that would end up being a bunch of shit with the one good track i'd heard previously.

Yeah, gone are the days of my yoof when you could go into a record shop, pick up a vinyl and ask the bloke behind the counter to let you hear a few tracks from it. Maybe there are still some indie outlets that would humour you, but I doubt very much HMV, Virgin et al. would let you do this if you asked. I know some stores do have listening booths where they have a kind of juke-box setup, but it is based on what they consider to be the albums of the week, not on a customer-driven basis.

[cured]

I downloaded it but I also pre-ordered the album several weeks ago. Underworld can always count on taking my money be it albums, concert tickets, shirts, other merchandise

I'm one of those people that only spends cash on bands I like. I couldn't care less about the off-downlaod of one or two songs off of one album I'll only listen to a couple of times.

[gambit]

No, because I'm getting it free in the mail anyway.