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Maboul59 08-08-2009 01:00 AM
Nationality Argument
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Year Of The Snake (Post 114367)
anybody know why their schedule was so extremely limited this time round?
Because they're currently working on a new album and because these concerts aren't supposed to follow anything ?

May I remind you that Underworld are British and that the USA aren't supposed to be their first destination when they tour ?

In The Year Of The Snake 08-08-2009 08:53 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maboul59 (Post 114369)
May I remind you that Underworld are British and that the USA aren't supposed to be their first destination when they tour ?
No need to remind me of that, grasshopper, I assure you. Actually, to say they're simply "British" is a bit vague, innit? Rick is Welsh (god bless em), Karl's the one from Britain proper.

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Originally Posted by Maboul59 (Post 114369)
Because they're currently working on a new album and because these concerts aren't supposed to follow anything ?
This, however, is a good thing to remind me of. So, kind of like the few festivals they did before Beaucoup, where they found they needed to completely rework Snake, yes?

BeautifulBurnout 08-08-2009 09:25 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Year Of The Snake (Post 114390)
No need to remind me of that, grasshopper, I assure you. Actually, to say they're simply "British" is a bit vague, innit? Rick is Welsh (god bless em), Karl's the one from Britain proper.
Without wishing to split hairs, but they are both British - Rick is Welsh and Karl is English, both of which countries, together with Scotland, form Great Britain. If you add Northern Ireland, you have the United Kingdom.

:)

Mike 08-08-2009 09:49 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 114396)
Without wishing to split hairs, but they are both British - Rick is Welsh and Karl is English, both of which countries, together with Scotland, form Great Britain. If you add Northern Ireland, you have the United Kingdom.

:)
Ignorant foreigners ;)

Professor 08-08-2009 09:54 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
I thought the UK was somwhere near Iceland?

In The Year Of The Snake 08-09-2009 03:38 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 114396)
Without wishing to split hairs, but they are both British - Rick is Welsh and Karl is English, both of which countries, together with Scotland, form Great Britain. If you add Northern Ireland, you have the United Kingdom.
:)
Em, yeah. While I am so infinitely grateful for the geography lesson (I truly had no idea that them islands ova thar in that big ole sea was big ol' Great Britain!), it was actually completely unnecessary.

I said calling Rick "British" was vague, not wrong. He's Welsh, and proud of it. (By his own admittance, and how else did Cymraeg end up as one of the menu languages on "Everything, Everything"? (The others of course being the obviously-required English, and very justifiably-included Japanese.))

They're both British, but call a Welshman a "Londoner" and he'll almost certainly take offense.

Mike 08-09-2009 03:49 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Call anyone outside of London a 'Londener' and they would also take offence. After all, we dont call all amercians 'New Yorkers' :P

In The Year Of The Snake 08-09-2009 03:59 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike (Post 114477)
Call anyone outside of London a 'Londener' and they would also take offence. After all, we dont call all amercians 'New Yorkers' :P
True, but the analogy you make is not completely appropriate. Wales, like Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland are actually fully separate countries, united under the banner of the United Kingdom. When you call a "San Diegan" a "New Yorker", for example, you're confusing separate parts of the same country (forgetting our little states). But call someone born in and living about Cardiff a "Londoner", and you're citing a place that's not even in his country at all.

//\/\/ 08-09-2009 04:15 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Year Of The Snake (Post 114476)
Em, yeah. While I am so infinitely grateful for the geography lesson (I truly had no idea that them islands ova thar in that big ole sea was big ol' Great Britain!), it was actually completely unnecessary.

I said calling Rick "British" was vague, not wrong. He's Welsh, and proud of it. (By his own admittance, and how else did Cymraeg end up as one of the menu languages on "Everything, Everything"? (The others of course being the obviously-required English, and very justifiably-included Japanese.))

They're both British, but call a Welshman a "Londoner" and he'll almost certainly take offense.
hold on a minute - it was you who claimed that only karl was from 'britain proper' (post #395) so clearly it was 'completely necessary' to point out that both are british.

Mike 08-09-2009 04:21 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Year Of The Snake (Post 114479)
True, but the analogy you make is not completely appropriate. Wales, like Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland are actually fully separate countries, united under the banner of the United Kingdom. When you call a "San Diegan" a "New Yorker", for example, you're confusing separate parts of the same country (forgetting our little states). But call someone born in and living about Cardiff a "Londoner", and you're citing a place that's not even in his country at all.
Actually i was refering to this comment that you made:

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They're both British, but call a Welshman a "Londoner" and he'll almost certainly take offense.
Call a bloke from Bristol or Birmingham a Londoner, your almost certain to offend them with your ignorance. Just like if a someone called someone from LA a New Yorker.

So the analogy is correct.

In The Year Of The Snake 08-09-2009 04:27 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike (Post 114488)

Call a bloke from Bristol or Birmingham a Londoner, your almost certain to offend them with your ignorance. Just like if a someone called someone from LA a New Yorker.

So the analogy is correct.
No, sorry. In referring to a Welshman and an Englishman, I'm referring to two separate countries. In your case, you're referring to one and the same.

The analogy is, very obviously, not correct. Don't be daft.

TheBang 08-09-2009 04:42 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
All right guys, let's keep this thread on-topic, or take your argument to Noise or something.

dubman 08-09-2009 11:20 AM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Year Of The Snake (Post 114489)
No, sorry. In referring to a Welshman and an Englishman, I'm referring to two separate countries. In your case, you're referring to one and the same.

The analogy is, very obviously, not correct. Don't be daft.
i love semantics arguments over the internet. they're so predictable, so meaningless, so utterly uneccessary. you are great at this.

In The Year Of The Snake 08-09-2009 12:49 PM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dubman (Post 114519)
i love semantics arguments over the internet. they're so predictable, so meaningless, so utterly uneccessary. you are great at this.
Erm, it's not bloody semantics. I'm talking about two countries, he's talking about one. You do need a brain to understand this, however, so anyone without should feel rightfully shamed into refraining from posting.

However, of course the point really is that it's not simply a case of semantics, but that as so aptly spoken by Rodney Glen King, "Can't we all just get along?"

And out of respect for Bang, I am turning tail.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 08-09-2009 04:14 PM
Re: Underworld Live Webcast - 2009-08-07 Fox Theatre, Oakland
 
I don't see what any of this has to do with the Webcast???

Everyone just STFU, refer to them all as fucking limey* and mo move on.


*& I'm half London-donger, so I can say this!

TheBang 08-09-2009 04:57 PM
Re: Nationality Argument
 
Aaaaaand .... scene.


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