Underworldlive version 3.0 thread

[Dirty0900]

july 2007 - goodnight

over the coming weeks, we're launching version 3 of underworldlive.com

you'll notice we've switched-off new member registration and the shop, which allows us to migrate the user data for all the existing members of underworldlive.com to the new site

once we've migrated all the data to the new site and fully tested it, you'll be able to log-in with your existing details and access your purchased digital products and even change your registered email address and password

we hope you enjoy the all new underworldlive.com and thank you for your support and patience!!

[ChemicaL]

Well, I, for one, am grateful for this little piece of information since nobody else was capable of answering the question of registration so muchos gracias for that, hombre.

Cheers

[dc_04]

can't wait to see what's in store..

fingers crossed for a whole bunch of new tour related goodies :D

- dc

[Ufotofu]

Every time I read "Underworld" and "new" in the same sentence, I think my heart skips a beat.

This should be good...

[King of Snake]

looking forward to seeing how the new underworldlive.com is gonna integrate with the new album release...
Maybe there'll be some premium unlockable content when you've bought the album?

[Dirty0900]

looking forward to seeing how the new underworldlive.com is gonna integrate with the new album release...
Maybe there'll be some premium unlockable content when you've bought the album?

Like a Japanese only album track;)

[Dirty0900]

Check it out now!!!!!!!!!

Major update

[aNt]

give it 12 - 24 ;)

[big screen satellite]

mmm i can feel the bass....

nice looks like aNts been bizzy (ish)

[dubnobasswithme]

i dig this new layout :)

[dubman]

um...

still the same?

[King of Snake]

looks different to me

[BeautifulBurnout]

Teh Book of Jam sounds awesome! Can't wait! :D

[dc_04]

Teh Book of Jam sounds awesome! Can't wait! :D

i agree! i wonder if you can just 'subscribe' to get the book every month?

great site.. looks like there's going to be a ton of awesome new content :)

- dc

[grady]

WOW!

Looks like a great deal of fun is about to be had by all.

[potatobroth]

Book of Jam is wonderful. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
As for the layout, lets not go overboard here. Its just a standard vanilla layout. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

[patrick]

well the layout changed in terms of more than one piece of content on it at a time... before it was just the photo that changed....


anyhow, looks lovely in terms of content we are going to get

[aNt]

standard vanilla layout

paa! you'll see ;)

[Techno_Bunny]

yeeehaaah!!
mmm, i love the artworks, totally cool thermal paperdrawing!
yumyumyummy :D
site looks different, weird, bizar, cool
great job aNt !

[TheBang]

Am I the only one that still sees the old boring site? :(

[sanakan]

yes. empty your browser's cache ;)

[aaron5000]

This page still needs an update to take dirty.org off the list. I mean unless people want to look for porn or something. haha


Diggin' the site though.

[TheBang]

yes. empty your browser's cache ;)
I did. :p I imagine it was probably a DNS caching issue, because it changed IP's? Tsk, tsk, someone should have lowered the TTL first.

In any case, I see it now! Sexy. Reminds me of the Live in Tokyo cover.

Nifty stuff on there. A new "Mo Move" video from Moscow (NOT a cell phone video). And a studio(?) version of "Can U Feel This Bass?"

Can't wait for the return of the Archive and Store.

[potatobroth]

paa! you'll see ;)

but i love vanilla! its so easy to find what you want!

[holden]

Nifty stuff on there. A new "Mo Move" video from Moscow (NOT a cell phone video). And a studio(?) version of "Can U Feel This Bass?"

Can't wait for the return of the Archive and Store.

That live "MoMove" is boisterous! Did the River of Bass lyrics in there. Can't wait for the complete audio archive of the Moscow gig :)

Very nice new UWLive frontpage. Cheers to all involved!

[TheBang]

There's a new movie of a parachute posted, accompanied by Wedge. I wonder if that's maybe part of the new live show? Or just random video?

[TheBang]

And the Word of the Day is . . . oblivion

http://au.encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861732316/oblivion.html

[TheBang]

So, Karl's diary today about filming with Simon Taylor (of Tomato), led me to find Simon Taylor's blog. And in his blog, I found this entry from a couple months ago, about filming something from Karl's lyrics. What song are the lyrics from?

http://www.phofa.net/blog/simon/2007/06/swallows-and-amazons.html

[nanovivid]

The new site looks great. Is there any chance of an RSS feed? :)

[cheshkat]

way to confuse a stoner :)

i like it :D

[BeautifulBurnout]

So, Karl's diary today about filming with Simon Taylor (of Tomato), led me to find Simon Taylor's blog. And in his blog, I found this entry from a couple months ago, about filming something from Karl's lyrics. What song are the lyrics from?

http://www.phofa.net/blog/simon/2007/06/swallows-and-amazons.html

OK - I know I'm spoiling here, but, these images were part of the visuals at Knebworth. No idea what tune though, really can't remember. And it may not even have been synched to the tune that the lyrics inspiring the visuals came from either. :)

[stauff]

since no one's mentioned it yet...

I'm loving the notebook grabs.. today's is particularly dirty.. mmm.

[sloff]

Today's read was a real treat. Makes me think I should dig through my old writing notebooks and edit and revise.

[viddy]

Phonestrap, a nice little bluesy, acoustic recording. Never really heard Karl sing this way before. Perhaps the mic in the picture was the one they were using to record this track. Looks like an old ribbon microphone. I could really get used to this kind of underworldlive.com!!

[King of Snake]

Phonestrap, a nice little bluesy, acoustic recording. Never really heard Karl sing this way before. Perhaps the mic in the picture was the one they were using to record this track. Looks like an old ribbon microphone. I could really get used to this kind of underworldlive.com!!

where are you getting this? I don't see it on underworldlive...?

[King of Snake]

btw seems Simon Taylor has updated his page with some awesome stills from the videoshoot for Crocodile!!

http://www.phofa.net/blog/simon/index.htm (http://www.phofa.net/blog/simon/2007/08/edit.html)

[viddy]

where are you getting this? I don't see it on underworldlive...?
uh oh, it appears to be gone. I'll put it back up when I get home.

edit:

Take a listen:
http://www.humanwire.net/phonestrap.htm (http://www.humanwire.net/phonestrap.htm)

[TheBang]

Phonestrap is back on underworldlive.com Very interesting. I wonder if it's from the Mk1-ish era, given all the nostalgia diaries we've been getting recently.

[King of Snake]

Very interesting, Karl should definitely play more guitar on the liveshows cause he's pretty good at it! :)

[Bargo]

Does the 'version' link next to the main Phonestrap link work for anyone else, or is it just broken?

[TheBang]

It's a broken link.

[TheBang]

You almost have to click all the links every day. So many new images going up. New images on the OwB cover click-thru. A new tree photo is up. 2 new Mastering pictures. An old squiggle has returned, and the most recent squiggle moved to the click-thru page.

[stauff]

Indeed.. my only complaint with all this cool new stuff on the page is that I have to check back so often, and scroll through the whole page for fear of missing a delicious titbit of stuff like phonestrap :)

[TheBang]

Interesting. "Wayposts" today describes some of their design process and philosophy, as well as illuminating what's going on with Underworldlive.com 3.0.

Also, the squiggle has changed, and links to a squiggle movie today.

[Cadevil]

I loved that entry for Waypost 1. It's great to see Karl explore one full idea like that...gives us insight/perspective/identity(?) into both the Belly book and some Underworld lyrics (water on concrete, water on stone)...

more please :)

[TheBang]

"jamming new & forgotten things"

Mmm, would be great to see the return of Cherry Pie, Air Towel, Cups, or Ansum?

[grady]

oich oich oich oich oich oich....puppies and tin there!

but more importantly, luetin.

[Dirty0900]

Im so looking forward to this tour, i reckon each set will be different from the previous nights.

[crazysugarboy]

but more importantly, luetin.

Oh, yes pleeese - "it tastes the same, it tastes the same..."

[TheBang]

i reckon each set will be different from the previous nights.
As per usual. But I'm hoping that aside from selections from the current roster of songs, there'll be like at least one dusty, forgotten gem thrown in each night.

[TheBang]

Right-click, save as:

http://www.underworldlive.com/home/Two-Months-Off-Audio/mainColumnParagraphs/0/asset/TMOrhrsl.mov

Surely, the date should read 15Aug2007 instead of 15July2007?

[Techno_Bunny]

ow, i just love you :D

[ndrwrld]

oh, but i wanna see Karl Break !

and...thank you for this linkage.
NYC here we come.

[testudo]

Anyone else having trouble to access underworldlive.com?

Ant are you making a major update, right now? :D

If I could request something: some samples of the LP would be nice :o



UPDATE:
Now my work is blocking the UW site from being viewed...:mad:

[TheBang]

Nice, new Moscow video. It's huge.

New Book o Jam too

[crazysugarboy]

The moscow link has gone!!:confused:

[TheBang]

Looks like the server melted. Everything's gone. :(

[aNt]

narr its the next day :)

[the real stuff]

is this content being archived on the site? it'd be nice if we could access previous days' entries.

[aNt]

oh - ok, i've put it back up for u all, dont tell anyone, huss huss...

[viddy]

Moscow video = Everything Everything DVD 2.0

[mmm skyscraper]

http://imdb.com/title/tt0064471/

[selector]

Thanks for the Ornette Coleman link Karl!!

[holden]

Looking at the new album artwork and the book of jam images from UW/Tomato...i'm reminded very much of some of Graham Wood's earlier videos' layered effects (Spikee, Cowgirl, Most 'Ospitable, Spoonman, Dark train come to mind)...the text and colorful video pix entering and fading in rapid succession.

Did Graham Wood do the cover to OWB? Or are these jams and layered techniques the "Tomato Style"?

[froopy seal]

UPDATE:
Now my work is blocking the UW site from being viewed...:mad:But they didn't block dirty.org before? :)

[testudo]

But they didn't block dirty.org before? :)


the way it works is they monitor traffic to certain sites and certain types of e-commerce sites. I think Ant changed the code for the site, into a e-commerce site (resembling a porn site) therefore they blocked it. The only other explanation is that their are many Dirties at my work using uwlive.com, which is inconceivable (sadly) :cool:

Nope they never block dirty.org, simply not enough penis and vagina talk (in their 'vulgar' forms). ;)

[lloyd]

Great band of the past, The Ruts. Still listen to them too now and then. On my blog I posted about buying 'ruts in a can', that was when Yan was over from canada, Feb. 2005 (http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2005/02/just-in-9.html)...

[Techno_Bunny]

ah Hawkwind :)
memories !
did i say already how much i love all the updates all the time?
and the photographs!!!

[change]

Yet another audio track is up online named "Romford Walk" version. Perhaps we'll see this track of ambient noise worked into something musical sometime soon. :) I love these new sounds released online.

[testudo]

http://www.underworldlive.com//home/RmfrdWlk/mainColumnParagraphs/00/asset/rmfrdwlkr2.mov

it seems as if it is not the first version either

[BeautifulBurnout]

Yet another audio track is up online named "Romford Walk" version. Perhaps we'll see this track of ambient noise worked into something musical sometime soon. :) I love these new sounds released online.

Had to drive through Romford today. I wish it inspired me as much as it seems to inspire R & K :D

"Architecture for the blind" indeed :p

[mmm skyscraper]

Crocodile video is up.

And the a/b side artwork of the Crocodile promo.

[testudo]

In keep with Karl's link

Beatific Soul:
JACK KEROUAC On the Road


Tuesday, November 27, 2007
@ The New York Public Library

http://www.nypl.org/research/chss/pep/pepdesc.cfm?id=3437

[Troy McClure]

I was curious if there is going to be any webcasting or streaming audio for any of the US shows? I know there was mention of it in a promo interview that Karl Hyde gave to Billboard.com. I can't make it this time around to the California shows, and this would be the next best thing to being there.

-- Jason

[TheBang]

Yeah, I was wondering that too. I think they actually mentioned wanting to do another streaming video feed, ala Cocoon. But given how close it is to all the shows now and we still haven't heard anything, I would guess that it's probably not going to happen.

[selector]

Kind words from Karl today; post 1st show in america....
and a little throwback to pearl's girl with that pic!

nice! ;)

[dubman]

i find myself kind of liking it when they fuck up. reminds me that it's not this streamlined push-n-play kind of deal but that it's a LIVE show and they make it work so that i barely notice anything anyway.

because apparently tons of shit fucked up and i just went with it.

[beh]

i find myself kind of liking it when they fuck up. reminds me that it's not this streamlined push-n-play kind of deal but that it's a LIVE show and they make it work so that i barely notice anything anyway.

because apparently tons of shit fucked up and i just went with it.
mentioned there were a lot of technical issues last night to my flatmate this morning, who went last night but doesn't know a lot of Underworld, and he said the same thing.

I noticed a few screw-ups, but nothing really to distract from show. I thought the biggest screw-up of last night was when the rolling, building drums at the beginning of NUXX finally breaks for the first time into the familiar warm duh-na-duh where most finally realize what song it is. they were about 1.5 seconds too late and the drums had started to fade.

off in about two hours to tonight's show. I'm skipping most of Oakenfold this time.

bh

[Cadevil]

Really enjoyed todays post on UWlive...great to hear about his adventures and see him express his affinity for the city.

[crank]

i'm just wondering when in September the "update" to UW live is happening...

[aNt]

sshhhuuuussshhh or they will phone me!

[sanakan]

the best time to demand a pay-raise, ant ;)

[crank]

hahahaha...poor aNt... poor poor aNt.

[crazysugarboy]

Have just watched a couple of Ruts youtube vids - many thx Karl - I'd forgotton what a fab they were/are:) "In a Rut" is such an energising track and brings back many happy memories of listening to John Peel round that era. The comsat angels, the psychodelic furs - just fab stuff

[lloyd]

Phonestrap 5 is up

[joethelion]

ha! Teenagewildlife used to be the webpage I ALWAYS went to when I was obsessed with David Bowie :P

(actually it was even a list of David's 'top ten albums' or whatever that got me to buy my first UW album - STITI)

[rayray]

me and my two ray's (daughters) visited rockmount last year and he
treated them like cowboys - they had a great time visiting the place
talking the talk with him also ! good memories, thanks for stirring
them up.

ps. the two rays are coming to the show tomorrow night also - :)
give the little kiddies a shout out if you can R&K.

[mmm skyscraper]

New York audio up

I miss my dog

[change]

Indirectly related to UWLive but Perou mentions the group, the NYC show and the website on today's post (http://www.perouinc.com/diary/?date=2007-09-14). :)

[TheBang]

I wish all the new photos would go up in Perou's gallery, including the inflatables set.

[darktrain]

from today's journal, re the US tour:
"Still surprised to discover so many people who want to come & celebrate."

well now that you know, how about making it over here more often!
:D

[grady]

from today's journal, re the US tour:
"Still surprised to discover so many people who want to come & celebrate."

well now that you know, how about making it over here more often!
:DAs much as I think they would like to come over here more often, this quote from Karl in a Boston Herald interview illustrates why they tend to visit the states so infrequently.

UK electronic duo Underworld hasn’t brought its legendary live show to the United States in more than five years, but it’s certainly not because of laziness or lack of interest.

Blame simple economics.

“It’s very expensive to come to America,” explained Karl Hyde, one half of the seminal dance act. “It’s the only place we lose money. And we haven’t lost money in 20 years.”

“It’s a drag because we’ve got so many cool fans here,” Hyde said from San Francisco. “It’s kind of heartbreaking when you can’t come and play live to the people who give you daily support. But we bit the bullet this time.”

link (http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view.bg?articleid=1031329)

[Butcher of Bakersfield]

What, did they think just because electronic didn't go over huge, that we just got on a boat and sailed to some distant land, or dug a hole and burried our heads in the sand.

callin' out callin' out
who are you
call rang back an echo of misunderstood silence
and the people in the city
crawling under the city
riding rails of discontentend occupations
flatline yellow
a bowl of glow comes over them
scent of steam, chicken and waffles
metered parkin'
as the people arrive
band dips into the archive
can't hold back myself waiting
for the new UnderworldLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVE!

[lloyd]

'normaal' is dutch ,with a long 'aaa', means the same as in English.

It's also the name of a band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normaal) from the east part of holland, singing in the local dialect.
youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNkXELznW-4), 1979 as opener for AC/DC

[grady]

Anyone else misssing the old style uwlive entries where the text was written on the photos themselves?

I'm trying not to say this from an archivist perspective as someone who would save every image that was posted everyday, but I really liked the layered effect of the posts in the past.

Whether it was a photo taken by Karl on stage with his own text or from someone else's camera.

These new images while very similar to the previous incarnation of underworldlive seem to be a bit different and off at times. I understand this is something to be expected when change occurs, but I really had grown to love the text placed over an image from a camera phone in such a way that it would shape and direct the viewers eye to a point or area in the picture. The wrapping of the text, sometimes sparse, other times verbose, seemed fitting for the photo, time, and place.

I would be curious to know what others here think of the new photoblog incarnation up at the site now and even what Karl or those in the underworld crew have to say about it.

I'm sure there are many positives and negatives to the new incarnation, such ease of editing and posting.

[big screen satellite]

Anyone else misssing the old style uwlive entries where the text was written on the photos themselves?

I'm trying not to say this from an archivist perspective as someone who would save every image that was posted everyday, but I really liked the layered effect of the posts in the past.

Whether it was a photo taken by Karl on stage with his own text or from someone else's camera.

I'm sure there are many positives and negatives to the new incarnation, such ease of editing and posting.

personally i prefer the new way - i was never a fan of the text on photos method

i like to view the whole picture as taken - i especially loved the simple clouds picture yesterday...

its more professional looking now as a blog / opener page than it used to be

while it is still simple and easy to use

i like it...

change is GOOD! :)

[grady]

personally i prefer the new way - i was never a fan of the text on photos method

i like to view the whole picture as taken - i especially loved the simple clouds picture yesterday...

its more professional looking now as a blog / opener page than it used to be

while it is still simple and easy to use

i like it...

change is GOOD! :)

Oh very true, change is good and this new incarnation seems to lend itself more to the book of jam becoming a way of cataloging and collecting all of these photos.

[TheBang]

For the longest time, I didn't even know the text on the pictures were diary entries. I didn't even read them. Then I did once I realized what they were.

[change]

change is good, indeed. :p However, I preferred the old way of putting the text on the photos. It was a unique and interesting way of communicating that I enjoyed very much. Of course, the new photos are nice too.

[Cadevil]

Love that first pic on UWlive today...Has an eerie "entering the underworld" feel to it.

looks like Rick and Karl...of course when you click on it you find out it's not...

[joethelion]

anyone know how to save the "Alligator version" of the Crocodile video?

[mmm skyscraper]

You need a program that can save a rtsp stream. Here is the stream:

rtsp://a312.q.kamai.net/3/312/2046/46f3f4a1/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f053 c53497066ad33fa4d7/alligator_300.mov

[dubman]

that is so.... goofy.

[Ufotofu]

"Alligator Version" was really fun to watch. So completely goofy, though, I agree. I'll bet it was a blast to make.

[Jan]

anyone know how to save the "Alligator version" of the Crocodile video?
Mov Recorder works. 30$ though...
http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/record-streaming-video-quick-time.htm

I'm not sure if there are free programs for capturing those streams but I haven't found any...

[big screen satellite]

the alligator version is the better one imo,

i love karls face close up :)

[TheBang]

I've tried Mov Recorder once, and it didn't work for me. YMMV.

[qirex]

Nice Lost In Translation link

[holden]

Enjoyed the Autotrader recording that's crept into several of the live shows (e.g. Cocoon club gig 06). The panning and snipping of the quoted years is fun, and makes Karl's voice sound like a text-to-speech recording!

Also love the images for the OWB gatefold...that would be lovely to have in poster form, say 4" or larger to a side! ;)

[TheBang]

leave it to Underworld to make music out of the used auto listings.

[Bargo]

Wow, "Space" is really, really nice..

[TheBang]

I linked this in aNt's thread also, but it's apparently a traditional Welsh hymn called Calon Lân:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calon_Lân

Sorry if this has come up before, but what is Underworld's connection to Wales? I mean, it comes up regularly in their work, such as this Welsh hymn, "Best Mamgu Ever", Welsh language lessons in the radio broadcast, just to name a few. Can anyone enlighten me?

[Dirty0900]

Rick is Welsh, they also met in Cardiff in a restaurant i believe......

[TheBang]

Ah, thanks.

[geoff]

Didn't Freur have at least one song with lyrics in Welsh? It was a special version ... like "some song (welsh version)". If my memory doesn't fail me ...

[mmm skyscraper]

Doot Doot

[dubnobasswithme]

hey! the underworldlive.com site is curently unavailable. could this mean that the new 'shop' is being added by senor aNt?

[crank]

let's HOPE that's what it means!

[lloyd]

Yeah there is a video of Doot Doot in welsh floating around the interwebs.

[galama]

"Space" sounds like an interlude to a new space! Something is giving me goosebumps.

[dc_04]

i guess the members rollout didn't go exactly as planned ;)

try it again, shall we?

- dc

[TheBang]

I'm sorry. I was downloading the 160 unreleased studio tracks that they posted in the new Members section so quickly that it crashed the server and aNt had to roll everything back.

I did manage to finish downloading about 90 of them before the server crashed though. It includes You Do Scribble and Darc and some cool new ones like Bullet Train to Kyoto. I hope they fix it soon so the rest of you can hear them.






















;)

[lloyd]

Welsh Doot Doot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWkccmluYOs

[Techno_Bunny]

I so love David Bowie, such a great guy.

[crazysugarboy]

Btw, does anyone else agree with me regarding the "mastering" pix which have been appearing on the new site, that is, they are a really cool and beautiful set of photos, echoing a sublime stillness and a celebration of high technology and industrial design (at the risk of sounding pompous:eek: ). They remind me of the Fluke cd covers "Six Wheels on my Wagon" and "Risotto"

[selector]

Btw, does anyone else agree with me regarding the "mastering" pix which have been appearing on the new site, that is, they are a really cool and beautiful set of photos, echoing a sublime stillness and a celebration of high technology and industrial design.


Agreed...they are abso-lovley. ;)

[sy2004]

isn't the login back yet? I don't see it

[TheBang]

The gorilla is sitting on it.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Hehe - no need to be forgiven for reading Roger McGough! Or if there is I need to seek forgiveness more often meself. One of my faves:

The time I like best is 6am
when the snow is 6 inches deep
which I'm yet to discover
'cause I'm under the covers
fast, fast asleep.

[Sean]

Good to see I'm not the only one wondering where the members area of Underworldlive is. I miss it. :(

[TheBang]

There's a new movie of a parachute posted, accompanied by Wedge. I wonder if that's maybe part of the new live show? Or just random video?
Did anyone keep a copy of the parachute video? For some reason, I didn't save it.

[DaddyAdv]

The new member section was just shortly online! ("my account").
My old login worked.
It's gone now again.

It also said this:

=====================================

Why should I become a member?

It is free to register with underworldlive.com
All you need is a valid email address.

When you are a member you have privileged access to...

– Exclusive free audio and video downloads.
– Exclusive Live Radio Shows and webTV broadcasts from Underworld in the studio
and on stage from venues around the world.
– Exclusive hi-resolution images and artwork.
– Free and Exclusive bonus material for items purchased in the shop.
– Free mobile ring-tones and images.

Click here (http://www.underworldlive.com/register.html) to register and become a member today.

============================================

[aNt]

nicely spotted DaddyAdv; hoped no-one would see that, just a quick 'live' test- seemed to be ok, will post something soon with da info. v.soon.

[BeautifulBurnout]

nicely spotted DaddyAdv; hoped no-one would see that, just a quick 'live' test- seemed to be ok, will post something soon with da info. v.soon.

Spotted it too. The interview doesn't seem to want to play properly though. Although that might be that I am running the wrong version of quicktime or something? What version are you using, aNt?

[aNt]

try reloading the page...

[Dirty0900]

I cant get on the page to register.

[TheBang]

Wow, I wonder what exactly inspired today's diatribe. I must admit, I thought San Francisco Walk was another recording by Karl, but I guess it was Rick, after all.

Of course the press is going to focus on the clowny boy wildly waving his muppet arms, rather than the comparatively boring gaunt man hidden behind the desk pushing buttons. We know better though.

As my imagination ran wild over the past week, wondering what would happen if Rick's illness were more severe, I realized that despite Karl's recent musings about bringing in new people to take over Underworld, it simply wouldn't be the same without either of them. It's BOTH of them, working together, inspiring each other, that have created the amazing music that touches all of us here and brings us together.

(BTW, -1, in the second to last paragraph, you get to read "intimated" again. ;))

[BeautifulBurnout]

Was trying to cut and paste this and, being a n00b, I don't have the l33t skillez to do it. But I was really moved by this piece. Not a diatribe, just a setting straight of records, imo.

Of course we know that UW only works because of the chemical reaction between these two. It seems like the press don't, though.

[Ninja Power]

Really enjoyed today’s post, so raw and honest.
Call it coincidence, but only 2 days ago I discovered these 2 old interviews with Karl & Rick
(both at different times and on the release of different albums).

http://www.thenitmustbetrue.com/rsmith/rsmith.html (fantastic read)
http://www.ijamming.net/Music/Underworld1.html

It’s clear from both articles that R&K are 100% dedicated to the process of
creating together, each with their specific roles. What’s also obvious is Rick’s
commitment – a true "perfectionist" or as Karl put it "the core".

Big respect
And thanks again sharing your thoughts on this.

[grady]

I really like the post today, illuminating aspects of the dynamic group of people that are and present underworld, but also sometimes blunt honesty permeating throughout.

[BeautifulBurnout]

In fact - I may be a n00b but I am a l33t touch-typist and decided to retype word for word, comma for comma, this piece and post it here because I am aware that it may not be on the site come tomorrow or Monday and it would be a shame for Dirts who don't log on over the weekend to miss it. So here goes (in 2 parts):

In the World of P & P - Is it just me but has anyone else felt a strange disparity between what we know or believe to be the truth & what we read in the news? Ouch! - I'm not turning capitol 'P' political on you - no - rather I was was thinking in this instance about the way in which Mr S & Mr H are often portrayed, that the truth is often quite different & is in fact more interesting than we might at first be lead to believe.
Now please don't for one moment suspect me of ingratitude for the support the duo & team have been shown all over the World this year. Indeed the praise & enthusiasm with which the latest physical release has been received has been deeply inspiring, humbling & a real smile


Yet are we to believe -
that the impish fellow really does all that the press
would lead us to believe he does? Is it all so simple or is the picture
much richer & far more interesting?


OK, so we know he wanders the streets
with his notebook and cellphone
gathering text for the boys to use in the studio & taking lo-fi snaps
for the brilliant (but often overlooked) John Warwicker to curate
into beautiful artworks far richer than the raw photographs themselves.
And what of the text?
Where did the idea come from?
We've heard about Sam Shepard and Lou Reed but let's just go back
for a moment to the end of the 80s when UW MKII collapsed
& Rick (left alone with the responsibility of clearing the band's debts
& salvaging what he could make of the original studio)
decided he wanted to make music for the dancefloor & set about looking for
a DJ to work with. We all know he found someone & what happened next,
but what we con't hear is how it was he who told Karl that he would have to
radically change the way he wrote words so that they didn't have to
keep waiting for him to finish the lyrics in order to finish a track.
And are we to believe that the conversation finished there – that he had
no further influence on the way text was gathered, sung and recorded?
Or that such influence doesn't continue up until this very moment?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Live
We've seen the live shows & jammed with the boys on stage – riding waves
of energy exchanged between us all. Transported by the music the grooves
& the performance to places that have left us sweaty and smiling.
Yet, after such nights when we read the reviews the following day
don't we think it more than a little strange that the imp gets pretty much all
the attention & Rick gets little more than a passing line – tagged onto
“...and Darren”. Who do we imagine is the backbone, the core, the inspiration,
the producer & director of these celebrations – these expressions of joy?
Surely our lad with the groovy moves can't be conjuring such magic
by wiggling hhis glitter trainers & if we're to believe he's out on the streets
writing it all down & snapping away like Daido Moriyama on speed
then who is taking responsibility for everything else?
The boys tell us the gigs aren't programmed, that they're live & that there are
real instruments up there on stage, so who's playing them, who thought of them,
developed them & keeps moving everything forward – year after year?
D'you see where I'm going with this?


And who do we imagine
drives the web site, the radio shows, the tv shows,
the events, the productions, the photographs, the interactive projects,
the live recordings, the filmings, the videos, the mastering, the Abbey Road
recording sessions, the working with other artists. Who do we imagine
'makes' the records the boys put out? Who is at the core keeping everything
moving on from stagnating?


And if Karl is into Lo-Fi photography
then who is it that takes all thos beautiful hi-def images we see
on the web site every day? The brilliant 'mastering' series, the nature images,
the macro images, the plug-holes and bead-curtains (darn I wish I had an eye
that could've seen that bead curtain in that way...I was truly jealous),
& dogs & ponies & painted castles?
Who stood at one've the more dangerous crossroads in San Francisco
making street recording to upload to the site & continues to do that
night after night from cities all over the world? Who is it who updates
the whole of the web site week after week well into the wee hours
long after most of us here at Uwlive after slipped off to bed?
Well, I'm guessing here, but I'm going to take a wild stab & say
I bet it's not Karl.


There's more
much more dear brothers & sisters
The story goes on & is much richer than even I have intimated here,
yet somehow, for some reason, whenever its told it gets neatened up
& the core gets cut out. Yes there's much more to tell


But it's late
& I must sleep
whilst somewhere not far from here
Some one who gets virtually no recognition
will be working through the night again
because he sees a way to inspire us



Awesome stuff indeed. :)

[The359]

To those of us who love the work of Underworld, the union of Rick and Karl, we know very well that they are literally one foot in front of the other, repeating, necessary for "Underworld" to be "Underworld". Rick and Karl, you are both loved for your abilities not only on your own, but your ability to play off of each other so well.

[stimpee]

The original image is here (http://underworldlive.com/home/diary2/mainColumnParagraphs/0/content_files/file3/Believe-the-press--2.jpg)

[aNt]

my account online...

[lloyd]

I love the EPK vid
Great work.

[lloyd]

woeps, double post.

[Leon]

Rick needs a pair of glitter trainers too

I think the fact that he's not wearing any makes him more genious :)

[Lx_Nen]

I'm glad BeautifulBurnout posted that here, because I felt that it needed to be on the fourm and was going to type it out if it hadn't been done already.

I've always been interested in the process behind the work, but we don't often get to see what's behind the curtain. I've never really known if that's because journalists don't get told any of it, or because they don't write about it when they do get told.

It's easy to assume that Mr S makes a melody, LeDarrenDeJour sticks a kickdum under it then Mr H sings... and maybe some bands do work like that, but I doubt something as rich as Underworld's output could concievably emerge from such a linear process.

I've always wondered about division of labour within UW, and I'm glad to read that it's as complex as I'd imagined.

[BeautifulBurnout]

The original image is here (http://underworldlive.com/home/diary2/mainColumnParagraphs/0/content_files/file3/Believe-the-press--2.jpg)

Missing the first bit though ;)

You must have been asleep when we were discussing the pros and cons of posting the image in #rtsr :p

[Jan]

What happens when we have downloaded a RiverRun item three times?
Do we have to buy it again?

IMO this limitation leads to nothing:
- It won't stop piracy. (DRM also does not)
- People who got the RiverRuns from UWlive v1 did not know about this limitation when they bought it.
- also it's fairly easy to circumvent at the moment...

So why was it introduced?

[BeautifulBurnout]

What happens when we have downloaded a RiverRun item three times?
Do we have to buy it again?

IMO this limitation leads to nothing:
- It won't stop piracy. (DRM also does not)
- People who got the RiverRuns from UWlive v1 did not know about this limitation when they bought it.
- also it's fairly easy to circumvent at the moment...

So why was it introduced?


Hmm yeah. I can't see mine. But I don't think I dwl'd them more than once either. Odd. :confused:

[mmm skyscraper]

The San Francisco Walk was talked about in the interview on The Colin Murray show.

[swannman]

Really enjoyed today’s post, so raw and honest.
Call it coincidence, but only 2 days ago I discovered these 2 old interviews with Karl & Rick
(both at different times and on the release of different albums).

http://www.thenitmustbetrue.com/rsmith/rsmith.html (fantastic read)
http://www.ijamming.net/Music/Underworld1.html

Are we archiving these interviews somewhere -- or at least bookmarking them so they won't get lost? I'd love to flip through a chronological list of interviews with the band.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Are we archiving these interviews somewhere -- or at least bookmarking them so they won't get lost? I'd love to flip through a chronological list of interviews with the band.

Lloyd puts quite a few on his blog: http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/

[m.g.]

i don't know if this was already posted here somewhere, BUT the member zone is apparently "on" now in the uwlive site!!! just exploring it while i'm writing these lines... enjoy!!! (& become members, if you're not already...) :)

Après-coup & after an exploration, the "real shop" is not yet online, but the EPK is very nice to see (& again, Rick, get well soon!!!), also, the diary today (http://www.underworldlive.com/home/diary2.html) is having a "special" taste... A million thanks again to R&K to be like you are & bringing us all these things.

Later conclusion : erm... I should have read this thread before posting the above (which I didn't do for once...) as some of you here already posted about the "my account" zone & the diary... anyway... I was so moved by the EPK & the diary/journal today that I HAD to post this just when I saw this. I just admire & respect these 2 guys & will never be able to thank them enough to just be how they are & just wish all the best to them, specially Rick in these days.

[Ninja Power]

Just watched the "EPK" movie - brought a great big smile to my face.
Really good stuff, thanks.

W.

[Blueski]

What a great little mov. "EPK" is.

And what a nice journal entry it was today. SMILE: today.

[dc_04]

amazing entry today.

love this band and everyone associated with it. :)

- dc

[cacophony]

hm. i don't see anything in the "your digital products" section although i'm sure something should be there.

and the epk video crashes my browsers. both firefox and IE. possibly it has something to do with the media player and the flippin' 64 bit catastrophe of a windows platform i'm on. :(

[Cadevil]

EPK is great...good to hear the boys speak in a relaxed atmosphere/format.

I love this band. :D

[dubman]

wow.
great post today.

interview ran just fine for me.
i was wondering about the little (3) there... people have asked me to get into my account to nick them for free so i suppose it makes sense.

[Techno_Bunny]

Dubman, i've got the (3) too, and i'm pretty sure no one else but me has dled, and i dled only once. So must mean something else.
You should tell people to BUY the downloads and not let them leech :P

[geoff]

Techno_Bunny, the 3 means you can download that file three more times using your account. And 3 extra downloads is all you get. So it seems dubman's been on good behavior. :)

My question is what does the "+" mean next to the Misterons Mix?

[TheBang]

http://www.underworldlive.com/faq/faq-members/can-not-dowload.html

Why can't I download a digital item from my user page?

Each time you purchase a digital product from us you get three chances to download it. If you have exceeded three downloads on any given product, you will no longer be able to download it. Most Digital Service Providers only allow one download per purchase. We aim to be a little more flexible and accommodating than that! Next to each purchased digital product displayed on your user page, you will see a number - this is the number of downloads you have remaining.

[cacophony]

i only downloaded LBT once. shouldn't i have remainders?

or is this a policy put in place recently? i can't remember the last time i did anything over there. it's been.... well probably since LBT.

[Jan]

When there was still UWlive v1 there were no restrictions of this kind. You could download your RiverRuns as many times as you wanted.

But now it's different. Reminds me of that crappy Bioshock protection. That's why I did not buy Bioshock, and if I wasn't a fanboy I surely would not buy any more RiverRuns.
IMO any restriction of this kind is DRM and thus unacceptable.
Look what happened in the past: The Big Sister package was encoded in the wrong way when it was released the first time (48000 Hz, 160 kbps). A few hours later it was replaced by the proper version. And if that wasn't enough some time later it was replaced again by another repack. I've got three different repacks of Big Sister.
LBT has two different versions, one with a somewhat higher resolution artwork.

What if something like that happens with the next digital item? Do I lose a download if I get a wrongly encoded version like what happened with Big Sister?

Were there problems with the old system? Was it abused?

[aNt]

if u have missing downloads pls 'pm' me, its not hard to look u up on the account server. there was a lot to migrate, so some things may have sliped though.

jan; not sure i understand you, u can download the file and do whatever u like with it. old site was becoming a hosting server for fake accounts, not ideal. this way we can bring u more stuff with the bandwidth we have. the counter only reduced when the file is fully downloaded. i'll look into the repacking thing, that shouldnt happen anyway.

the '+' means unlimited downloads.

[sanakan]

i don't see what the fuzz is all about... just download it and *backup* it at your place:
- burn a CD of it (remember: *no* DRM)
- store it on your harddrive
- archive it with your other backups

[sanakan]

doublepost while the site was not responding...

[cacophony]

i don't need another LBT download, i'm just curious about the status of my account.

[dubman]

i don't see what the fuzz is all about... just download it and *backup* it at your place:
- burn a CD of it (remember: *no* DRM)
- store it on your harddrive
- archive it with your other backups

that, and also, i just dont get all of this complaining on face value. to call an allotment of three downloads equivalent to DRM and unacceptable would sound like an invitation for me to tell you to take a hike if i were running this thing. DRM places major restrictions on the mp3 itself, this is only restrictions on the site because i'm sure people who arent you and me and other dirts were letting their internet buddies just use their account or just set up ghost accounts for mass abuse. so no, it's not DRM. secondly i cant think of too many places that let you download more than one copy of what you bought. third why would you ever need to have unlimited downloads? assuming most of us have it, that THREE chances to back up. demanding that the well is endless or youre throwing a fit is just bratty.

and fourth wtf was all that nonsense concerning the encoded stuff? OBVIOUSLY if something screws up it's not going to count against a download.

bah!

[Jan]

Yeah, you're probably right... I was taking this "what if?" thinking a little too far.
Sorry for sounding 'bratty'. :D

[patrick]

agreed... i think it makes perfect sense to try and restrict the re-download affect... when it is too easy one would just download it again instead of using another method to move it (say downloading a track again at work instead of bringing it on a jump drive/ipod)

[TheBang]

I have to agree. The 3 download rule seems reasonable for 99% of legitimate accounts, and if you really have a valid reason for more than 3 downloads, I'm sure you can use the contact method provided on the site to request another one.

[crank]

if u have missing downloads pls 'pm' me, its not hard to look u up on the account server. there was a lot to migrate, so some things may have sliped though...

thanks for all your hard work aNt!

[holden]

thanks for all your hard work aNt!

Seconded! It's great that the member section is back and the shop is evolving. Thanks aNt for clearing out the old and working the new. I look forward to the return (?) of the live archives (esp. to complete the Moscow gig!)

[sanakan]

The healing powers of the homelands.
i take it then that rick is getting better?

[gaborez]

hope so :)

[dubman]

oh boy
guess what's happening at some impossible time for us yankee scu m..

wonder if they'll record it

also: weird frigin update yesterday. medically controlled hallucinations? more waiting rooms?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Nice little short vid previewing the art installation they will be doing in Japan. Awesome. Would love to be there.

[jrmint]

john warwicker is a fast painting machine!

made my day..

[Troy McClure]

The phone video in the member's section is ace. Their dog is a video star. As for the Beautiful Burnout Remix...I hope this song gets a physical release for DJs to play. I can picture the crowd going mental at the chugging beat.

-Jason



-ps- Maybe Rick and Karl will try to record their dog for placement in a song ala Pink Floyd did with 'Seamus' or 'Mademoiselle Nobs'. :cool:

[m.g.]

please, please, pleeeeeaaaaase... I want this remix!!!

[King of Snake]

yeah, cool minimalist remix there! And I think the next official underworld music video should star Barney the dalmation as main talent :)

[dubman]

they're messing with their quicktime vids so i cant download the mov and convert to mp3 like i usually do.
right when they release bamboo and this rmx too

feh.

[King of Snake]

well you could always try and record the audio in something like Audacity.
Not sure why they're making everything as streaming, non-downloadable quicktimes though, it's kind of annoying to have to jump trough hoops in order to save something. Surely this is a waste of everyone's bandwith as every time we wanna listen to something again we have to stream it from the site.

[TheBang]

Maybe they're trying to save their own bandwidth. Remember when they posted the Moscow Rez/Cowgirl video, and it brought down the server for days?

It seems like they have carte blanche through their Apple QuickTime arrangement, so streaming it through Akamai gives them unlimited bandwidth.

[gaborez]

this is a fucking brilliant mix :)
i fucking love these guys. sorry for the language - am having a bit of a large moment!

come on let's 'av some more live shows!:D

[happiness stan]

damn, keep getting 10065 no route to host error.
I'll have to wait 'till I get home.

[Lx_Nen]

Great to hear Underworld doing their own remixes again, and this one has that epic never-ending feel that I miss so much from the Dark & Long days.

Ten minutes of pure bliss! I've always thought it strange that the band, who take such pride and pleasure in reworking their tracks constantly live, stopped doing their own mixes, especially as they do it so much better than anyone else.

It would be a real shame if this mix didn't get a release, this one needs to be heard at 3am on an empty motorway.

[gaborez]

It would be a real shame if this mix didn't get a release, this one needs to be heard at 3am on an empty motorway.

hmmm, or at 3am in a field surrounded by ravers near the M25...

[King of Snake]

Maybe they're trying to save their own bandwidth. Remember when they posted the Moscow Rez/Cowgirl video, and it brought down the server for days?

It seems like they have carte blanche through their Apple QuickTime arrangement, so streaming it through Akamai gives them unlimited bandwidth.

yeah ok, I guess it's not streaming trough their own site. Still sucks though. I've been trying to somehow donwload the source .mov but it seems impossible. I can get the correct url by opening the ref qt in a texteditor but if I put that into my browser it's still not downloading.
So I guess the only way is to actually record the audio trough an external program.

[gaborez]

NOTHING about FREE music SUCKS! ;) :)

[phaseblue]

hmmm, or at 3am in a field surrounded by ravers near the M25...

I'll second that!!!:D

However, I wouldn't mind it being near the JR Keiyo line in Tokyo either!!!

[BrotherLovesDub]

holy shizzbottles, this version is fantastic. added bonus seeing the Dalmatian in the studio.

[crazysugarboy]

I absolutely love this new version and the film is great! Love the spotty dog too - I just hope he doesn't bump into any of the gear while he's running around:eek:

[happiness stan]

tee hee hee, enjoyed the dalmatian fun, nice mix too.

cheers.

[testudo]

I wonder... is barnytheleggy the name of the remix or the film???

[BeautifulBurnout]

I wonder... is barnytheleggy the name of the remix or the film???

... or the Spotty Dog? :D

[starfox203]

Hi all,

I've been lurking here for a while but haven't been able to post for some reason. I guess it was waiting for something worthwhile. Well here's an mp3 of the UnderworldLive.com remix of Beautiful Burnout.

http://download.yousendit.com/C5F3C31C07F25450 (http://download.yousendit.com/C5F3C31C07F25450)

I love this song in every incarnation. My favorite is the version on the Birmingham live CD.

Enjoy!

Starfox

[testudo]

Underworld – “Bamboo” – ‘Riverrun Project’ (unreleased)

http://www.underworldlive.com/livebroadcasts/071113-essex.html

bamboo will be on a riverrun! ;)

maybe darc will be on this too???? :D

[Dirty0900]

Awesome news, glad this is coming out in some form.

[holden]

Hi all,

I've been lurking here for a while but haven't been able to post for some reason. I guess it was waiting for something worthwhile. Well here's an mp3 of the UnderworldLive.com remix of Beautiful Burnout.
Enjoy!

Starfox

You're a gentleman and a scholar! Thanks! :)

[cacophony]

I've been lurking here for a while but haven't been able to post for some reason. I guess it was waiting for something worthwhile. Well here's an mp3 of the UnderworldLive.com remix of Beautiful Burnout.

^^ now THAT'S what i call a first post!

[swannman]

Is it just me, or does the Dalmatian wag his tail to the beat with incredible precision?

[the real stuff]

Underworld – “Bamboo” – ‘Riverrun Project’ (unreleased)

http://www.underworldlive.com/livebroadcasts/071113-essex.html

bamboo will be on a riverrun! ;)

maybe darc will be on this too???? :D
Oblivion with Bells and the Breaking & Entering soundtrack also fall under the "riverrun project" label, according to Karl in some interview. He described the riverrun project as everything they've produced since A Hundred Days Off.

I don't think this verifies anything, except that Bamboo is unreleased and the river is still flowing ...

[darktrain]

holy shizzbottles, this version is fantastic.

i dare say it's better than the album version.
(also, there's a cricket outside my window chirping in time with the track...makes for a very nice addition to the mix:D)

[happiness stan]

Nice one starfox.

So, riddle me this anyone.
Is the dog's name Barny? As in Barny The Leggy?




These are the things that keep me awake at night.

[King of Snake]

yes it is.


in other news:

Re-booking dates for Europe, London & the World.

\o/

[happiness stan]

cheers Kos

[Ybli]

It means that Rick feels better,

A lot of things in progress,

So... only good news (and vibes to come)

Great !

[ndrwrld]

:Dto more countries?...hmmmmm.
( checks location ).
hmmmmmm.
crosses fingers.:o
p.s.- getting our $ back from the cancelled Oct 19th gig is becoming quite trying.:mad:

[Dirty0900]

Has anyone got a rip off Bamboo from the broadcast?

[negative1]

Oblivion with Bells and the Breaking & Entering soundtrack also fall under the "riverrun project" label, according to Karl in some interview. He described the riverrun project as everything they've produced since A Hundred Days Off.

I don't think this verifies anything, except that Bamboo is unreleased and the river is still flowing ...

yeah,
dont want to jump to conclusion, but here's to hoping..

-1

[starfox203]

Has anyone got a rip off Bamboo from the broadcast?

Like this one?

http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772 (http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772)

:cool:

[switchbladesusie]

:Dto more countries?...hmmmmm.
( checks location ).
hmmmmmm.


If they'd do an Oblivion Ball in the UK, I would be wasting $700 in a second for a plane ticket over. Money, work and school be damned! 120 Days, SMD, and the Orb and the Underworld boys in their home country? Sign me the hell up!

Luckily for me, however, I don't see them putting that together overnight, so I have a bit of time to save up some extra "dirty" funds.

That being said, I wish they'd do one in the US, but I really doubt that will ever happen, plus I'd much rather see a show of that magnitude in the UK. I'd imagine the vibe would be much different, unless it was another show under the stars in Central Park. That was simply magical and hardly anything could ever top that.

[Dirty0900]

Like this one?

http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772 (http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772)

:cool:

Legend!

[King of Snake]

Like this one?

http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772 (http://download.yousendit.com/00726E691677F772)

:cool:

Btw this track is very similar to "Lonely Bollock" (http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=L81Z7UDQ) as played on the 2004 dirtyradio broadcast. Although that didn't have the synth melodies in.

[switchbladesusie]

Today's photo just warms my heart like cocoa.

[Troy McClure]

Dear Underworld HQ,

Are there any plans to do streaming broadcasts for any / all this week Japan's events?

Also, are there any plans to sell CD's of said shows via UnderworldLive.com or www.liveherenow.co.uk?

Warm regards and safe travel,

Jason

[Blueski]

The photo of the pair of shoes is wonderful.

Also: nice mysp.video.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Hahahah! What on earth has Karl got on his upper lip in the Oblivion Ball Myspace vid?! It's a really funny vid though. "Lairy" rhymes with scary, mary and dairy, for future reference ;) :D

[nosajmunson]

Hi all,

I've been lurking here for a while but haven't been able to post for some reason. I guess it was waiting for something worthwhile. Well here's an mp3 of the UnderworldLive.com remix of Beautiful Burnout.


Good Ghandi, you rock. You just made my day.

[m.g.]

A new gem visible now @ uwlive (http://www.underworldlive.com/home.html) "member only" zone... a very original video of BB (new mix also... erm... "finger mix" maybe..?)



ps : ***SPOILER*** where we learn that it was not "crumb" but "chrom(e)" ;)

[gillenium]

Anyone who didn't know it was chrome before this wasn't listening very well...

But anyways, the video - bleh. This album has seen its share of mediocre videos. I liked it better than Taylor's videos, but that's not saying much. Didn't care too much for the new mix either. But, thanks again to Underworld for providing members content first!

[dubman]

there's a fine line being tread

between lo-budget, non-flashy ideas justly getting their props for that subliminal charm and creative simplicity that lack of funds tend to spark

and just dicking around with no emphasis except squarely on the fact that this is shoddy and not successful in communicating much of anything

i really hate this video, but that's fine.
i can see a time where i might like it, mainly because it's so dark, meshing the sense of touch with sound, and letting different forms fade in and out... is interesting in that sense of cognitive ambiguity and letting the visuals exist without focusing on anything in particular, but any stretched conceptual favors like that really do go out the window with actually watching it.

edit: at least i want to see it again to see if i really hate it that much

[negative1]

i think its a much better video than the dog one,
(more like moaner part 2)..i especially like the parts
after the 5min:50sec point...classic uw video..

i really don't care what the other new videos are like,
as long as the song is good...

time to start creating our own videos!

later
-1

[gillenium]

time to start creating our own videos!

later
-1

I honestly think any person on this forum could make a better video. I'd like to see some! Get crack'n! I might try my hand myself..

[King of Snake]

"an extraordinary film by Dirk Van Dooren and Tomato"

hmmm, extraordinarily boring maybe. Sorry uw but your video's as of late have been severely lacking in the creative department.

I've seen (and made) loads of this kind of stuff myself though....
in my first year in artschool :rolleyes:

I strongly recommend posting some of those new tunes as downloads (not annoyingly un-saveable streaming quicktimes) instead of wasting more time on these half-assed videos.

[dubman]

i'm kinda messing around with the idea for doing an autotrader video sometime soon

it's a bit complicated though and i dont know if it would glue together nearly as well as i have it in my head.

[Cadevil]

Anyone have another link to the BB dog remix? I've been away, and the link has expired...

[BeautifulBurnout]

"an extraordinary film by Dirk Van Dooren and Tomato"



There's a better vid here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrMo3g6Qiyc).... In fact, I wonder if this is what inspired Dirk in the first place? :D

[Ybli]

Tokyo amazing - did you log on ?

Yes I did and on the other side it was also a real pleasure to be there.

Uwl broadcast are also an interesting experience, just as uwl and... uw.

Thanks for those incredible moments (again)

(to heal : nice to see Ricky like that)

[Dirty0900]

Tokyo amazing - did you log on ?

Yes I did and on the other side it was also a real pleasure to be there.

Uwl broadcast are also an interesting experience, just as uwl and... uw.

Thanks for those incredible moments (again)

(to heal : nice to see Ricky like that)

Yup, not just one boring camera view but amazing various cuts. Fucking awesome and an interesting experience. I was watching Rick and seeing how hard he works on a night.

[mmm skyscraper]

Late of the Pier has some awesome keyboard parts.

[geoff]

There's a better vid here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrMo3g6Qiyc).... In fact, I wonder if this is what inspired Dirk in the first place? :D

More like this one ... Daft Hands (http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw)

Actually I really liked the BB video, EXCEPT for the parts with words written on the hands ... it just didn't seem to fit with the feel of the rest of the video.

[BeautifulBurnout]

More like this one ... Daft Hands (http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw)

Actually I really liked the BB video, EXCEPT for the parts with words written on the hands ... it just didn't seem to fit with the feel of the rest of the video.

I'm glad the words were on the fingers cos it cleared up a dispute about whether it was "bird - crumb" or "earth - chrome". In fact it's a bit of both. :D

[swannman]

"...started listening through the new records we bought & the ones that came in the post.
Would you like to hear them?"

Yes please! I've always got time for a UW webcast.

[cacophony]

^ speaking of which, i want to thank them for turning me on to the british expeditionary force.

[TheBang]

I'm glad the words were on the fingers cos it cleared up a dispute about whether it was "bird - crumb" or "earth - chrome". In fact it's a bit of both. :D
Then I must have better ears (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=80782&postcount=16) than you all. :)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Then I must have better ears (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=80782&postcount=16) than you all. :)

I'm just old and deaf, Todd. Too much Led Zep and Black Sabbath on the headphones when I were a teen :p

[negative1]

the oblivion ball is posted in 4 parts also...

later
-1

[geoff]

There's been no comment on the new hand-drawn style in Karl's diaries?

Drawing fake mustaches on Rick & Darren must be fun work indeed :)

Also I like how the text is inseparable from the images now. Just one cohesive unit.

I really like to save all these for future inspiration...

[TheBang]

I like it. They're fun!

[Vectorman0]

Does anyone know if there is an ETA for "online only releases" becoming available for purchase again? I missed them the first time around, and am eagerly waiting to get them.

[TheBang]

No one knows. On the Members only page though, it says, "The next step for us is to bring the "real" shop back online."

[Troy McClure]

In the members' section, it appears that part 2 of the Oblivion Ball is ready to be shown. But the link is not active yet.

-Jason

[Troy McClure]

In the members' section, it appears that part 2 of the Oblivion Ball is ready to be shown. But the link is not active yet.

-Jason

Woohoo, now Part 2 is up and running in the members' section.

[dubman]

hey you think we've been asked enough to opine re: writing about love?

simply put, i dont.
it either tritely boils down to the millions of small things that supposedly form this nucleus of intimacy
or it's hopelessly vague; using made up words and tenuously stringing things together in an uninformative mash of adjectives and hand gestures.
it's people like jacques brel who write about love, among other things, that sees and feels things so perceptively, and finagles the language so well to express it, that i'm actually extremely envious of it.

but whenever i try i think of what i react most strongly to with the person i love: the mild frustration that they're so grateful for something that i would always do for them, the fact that i can't think of anything i wouldnt do for them, those moments when you're talking where you feel that you understand so completely what they're saying about what they want, hope for, need, distrust, hate, aspire to... that conversation devolves into a series of "yeah"s, after which i apologize and explain my excitement on something agreed that is both important *and* nuanced, whenever i feel that i can actually help someone i love in a meaningful way... the feeling that i dont need to give everything i have, that i just need to give myself... when you can happily call it 'fucking' instead of 'making love'... then i try to look behind that and see what drives it, and if possible look behind that too, until i can make something out of a tangled mess that goes deeper than what's 'real'

then it fails.

so i stopped trying and just accepted it and knew it was happily percolating in my soul, keeping me whole and healthy.

edit: obviously its limited to interpersonal stuff because that's the kind that keeps me in ways more fundamental than type of work or music or *things*. that's a one-sided deal that you have to keep for yourself and use to love other people with.