Underworldlive version 3.0 thread

[mmm skyscraper]

Q: Why do barbers make good drivers?
A: Because they know all the shortcuts.

Q: What is the fastest fish in the world?
A: A motor Pike.

What is the most popular gardening magazine in the world?
Weeders Digest !

Customer: "This steak is terrible I want the manager"
Waiter: "Sorry sir, he isn't on the menu"

Q: What is a tiger's favourite Christmas song?
A: Jungle bells

Q: What do they sing at a snowman's birthday party?
A: Freeze a jolly good fellow!

[dubman]

ahahahahahaha.

after the super elegant and minimal structure, photos, text and type treatments... karl takes a page from the milton berle handbook of dandy jokes.

oh lol

[BeautifulBurnout]

Classic Christmas Cracker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_cracker) jokes - Christmas just wouldn't be the same without them :D

[galama]

Haah, these jokes can sure keep stoners entertained for some time. I'll see if I test them on someone later tonight :-)

Two cows were sitting on a tree and there comes the crocodile.
Croc: What are you doing?
Cows: We are eating apples.
Croc: But this is a pear tree!
Cows: We brought them from home.

and the crodocile sighed and flew away.

I'm so glad part 2 is up!

[Dirty0900]

Q - What did the sea say to the shore?

A - Nothing, it just waved!

[Jafs]

Land art is in the place.

[dubman]

alabaster shark thing?

[lloyd]

For this movie of Karel Appel, they also made shots through a frame. A few years ago there was a program about dutch museums and that picture, with the hole in it was also in the collection in the archives.
The paint on those paintings is still wet inside the places where it is thick and by that very hard to maintain and restoration work.

[gillenium]

:D Stick stack! That's fun to say.

I don't think Karl gets enough thanks for doing this daily picture blog. THANKS, KARL! Actually, thanks to Rick and all the Underworld crew for keeping the website up to date and interesting. I check it every day :)

[Leon]

I think this those stick pictures were great. I like the series he's shooting now, with the description included, it's kinda humorous :)

[Ybli]

I think we can say that it's something like "conceptual land art" especially when there are two pictures as today.

BoJ2 is here, let's go to see how the creative process is (still) working.

Thanks R&K and... keep on giving us !

[TheBang]

That's freaky. I bought 2001 on Blu-ray today, and was watching it just 1 hour before I visited underworldlive.com just now.

[gaborez]

"jammin' wild on tunes unheard for donkeys. if you come to party they will play them"

we will party, mr hyde :cool:

v encouraged by the mention of "tunes unheard for donkeys". some oldies not played live for a while? bring it on :)


hope it's darc in amsterdam...

[dubman]

LEAVE HOME.

:p

[gillenium]

I'm looking forward to the next Book of Jam about the Oblivion Ball. I have a feeling it's one that I'll want to buy a copy of... if I can figure out how to buy them. Is it even possible right now?

[TheBang]

Nope. They're only available as free PDFs at the moment. They've hinted that they might do a print compilation or "Best of" at some point in the future, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it.

[geoff]

That's one of the most frightening images I've seen... who's the guy with the weird eyes?

[gillenium]

You kiddin?? It's Pricey! :)

[geoff]

I thought it might be him, but damn.. I couldn't tell with those eyes! :) What the heck is that on his eyes anyway?

[pafufta816]

I'm looking forward to the next Book of Jam about the Oblivion Ball. I have a feeling it's one that I'll want to buy a copy of... if I can figure out how to buy them. Is it even possible right now?go to your nearest Kinko's, or whatever Fax/Printer/Paper store there is where you are, give them the PDF and get it printed for a few bucks. you could even bind it yourself : ) (or at least i would..)

[BeautifulBurnout]

go to your nearest Kinko's, or whatever Fax/Printer/Paper store there is where you are, give them the PDF and get it printed for a few bucks. you could even bind it yourself : ) (or at least i would..)

You know, I was just thinking about this is in the car on the way home, which is synchronicitous. How lovely it would be to get them printed onto double-sided glossy and spiral bound - maybe with a laminated cover of some kind. The ultimate coffee-table book for the UW fan. Coffee and Jam... mmmm :D

[crazysugarboy]

You know, I was just thinking about this is in the car on the way home, which is synchronicitous. How lovely it would be to get them printed onto double-sided glossy and spiral bound - maybe with a laminated cover of some kind. The ultimate coffee-table book for the UW fan. Coffee and Jam... mmmm :D

Well, I earn my living as a book binder/conservator, so I should be able to rustle up something. Perhaps, given the subject matter, a Japanese 5-hole stab-sewn binding would be appropiate with printed silk covers. I am currently rebinding my copy of "In the Belly of Saint Paul" (Eithiopic chain stitch sewing, oak boards and "alum-tawed" leather covering). A link to pics will appear shortly. (ie when it's finished:) )

[DaddyAdv]

Rick has provided us with some new audio material: lovely ambient stuff (featuring street noises, and BELLS !.)

http://www.underworldlive.com/home/SimplePeal.html

edit: it's sound from Hamburg main station - you can hear the "lovely" station message lady in the middle of the piece :)
Thanks Rick !

[Dirty0900]

Rick has provided us with some new audio material: lovely ambient stuff (featuring street noises, and BELLS !.)

http://www.underworldlive.com/home/SimplePeal.html

Thats literally arrived in the last few hours! Very nice stuff indeed.

[TheBang]

That is a really nice ambient piece. I really like these, and have missed them from the site for the past month or two.

[Jan]

Loving this, keep it up! :)

[TheBang]

Ah ha! I knew it sounded somewhat familiar. Simple Peal is derived, in part, from Simple Distinctive.

[m.g.]

Erm... and what is this Xmas Jam which I just found in the my account zone @ the listen again section... don't remember having listened it already? did I miss something? :)

[m.g.]

Ok. Solved. After about 35 minutes of a very weird & eclectic list of tunes, it seems that it's a listen again of the Underworld Vs The Misterons webcast they made on 12.12.07 Very nice though...

[TheBang]

It is indeed, along with the pre-show music. :)

[nosajmunson]

CHECK OUT the Shop today.
This looks like the start of something good. They've brought back the Riverrun releases. What's next???

http://www.underworldlive.com/shop (http://www.underworldlive.com/shop)

[TheBang]

Awesome. Can't wait for new stuff. And then when the shop's done, on to the Archive!

[m.g.]

Mmmm... this is cooooool :)

[mondokat]

My bones are vibrating, I'm so excited...

[dubnobasswithme]

CHECK OUT the Shop today.
This looks like the start of something good. They've brought back the Riverrun releases. What's next???

big excitement :)

[Dirty0900]

I wonder what todays post could be hinting at...:)

[TheBang]

Here's a better Rainbow2000 video. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWhofvTO1CI

[aNt]

bump - new shop?

[King of Snake]

nice work Ant! :)
cd-quality downloads of the riverrun singles!

hpefully we'll be seeing something truly new soon as well... (Darc EP would be nice ;))

[Jan]

w00t!
Finally the 12" are available in some digital form.


So... I paid 20 pound, when do the downloads appear?
edit: It's all good now! Thanks aNt! :D

[Spooky Shoes]

Damnit I'm going to have to find something to deal with .aiff format.

[dubman]

cool cool.

do they have to be bundled though? i've never liked underworld remixes, but i'd love a cd quality version of all the originals...

[Spooky Shoes]

do they have to be bundled though? i've never liked underworld remixes, but i'd love a cd quality version of all the originals...

I'd like them individually also as I have the promo CD's and it will save me recording the 12"'s (which I haven't done yet) .... but I'm expecting to have to suck it up though.

[TheBang]

Nice. I like this forward progress. Here are my constructive criticisms:

1. As others have said, would be nice to be able to buy individual tracks. I also have the promo CD's, but I'd like digital copies of the unmixed originals.
2. The MP3 pricing is not bad. A smidge high in comparison to, say, Amazon MP3 or iTunes, but not bad.
3. The lossless premium seems maybe 50-75p too high.
4. Would prefer the lossless to be FLAC, or zipped at the very least, to conserve bandwidth and disk space. (The download may already be zipped, I don't know. I'm just going by the posted file size which appears to be uncompressed in any way.) Or like NIN did, offer ALAC in addition to FLAC (for easy iTunes/iPod compatibility). I see no reason to offer uncompressed lossless.
5. For Lenny Penne, since you're requiring that customers purchase all 5 in either MP3 or FLAC (no mix-and-match), I think it should be easy (and only fair) that Lenny Penne be given in matching format (MP3 or FLAC).

[geoff]

Seconded, nice progress.

Will the older riverruns be made available in lossless format?

I imagine that would be a sticky situation, (how should they be priced for people who purchased the mp3 versions?) -- but I hope you can work something out.

[Jan]

2. The MP3 pricing is not bad. A smidge high in comparison to, say, Amazon MP3 or iTunes, but not bad.
3. The lossless premium seems maybe 50-75p too high.

I think the princing is alright, at least I know I support Underworld directly. How much do they get for a 79p download on iTunes? I'll bet no more than 5p.
Also, the Euro is very strong compared to the Pound... :D
5. For Lenny Penne, since you're requiring that customers purchase all 5 in either MP3 or FLAC (no mix-and-match), I think it should be easy (and only fair) that Lenny Penne be given in matching format (MP3 or FLAC).
I agree.
1. As others have said, would be nice to be able to buy individual tracks. I also have the promo CD's, but I'd like digital copies of the unmixed originals.

UW got nothing for the promos. I think it's only fair to pay now for the whole thing. Of course, there are other legitimate reasons for preferring single tracks, like if you don't like the remixes or already bought digital tracks from Beatport.

[Sean]

I'm just a bit bummed because as much as I'd love to have that bonus Lenny Penne remix, I already shelled out a bunch of money for all of the 12" releases when they first came out. I really just can't bring myself to spend another $25 US on all the same mixes again just so I can get one more new one. 25 bucks is a lot to spend for one remix.

Cheers to Underworld for offering it as a bonus that way, but it sure would be great if loyal fans like me could just purchase the new remix without having to buy all 5 singles a second time to get it. :(

Although....maybe I could sell my 12" copies so I can buy the full quality digital versions. There could be hope yet!

[holden]

Cheers to Underworld for offering it as a bonus that way, but it sure would be great if loyal fans like me could just purchase the new remix without having to buy all 5 singles a second time to get it. :(



Wasn't this LP remix played on Annie Nightengale's show in July 2006? Feel like i have a rip of it somewhere. It was okay, if memory serves!

I agree with TheBang about having FLAC lossless files instead of aiff. i guess it really is premium, though.

Thanks, aNt and UW for the digi-shop! Looking forward to seeing/hearing what comes next (hint,cough...can we get Bamboo, Darc, To Heal w/Rick's Dad, etc up there, as suggested by the boys?)

[negative1]

well, its a start..i guess.

good for people that don't have it yet..
good job..

now what about:
loads of birds
other exclusive mixes (japanese releases) etc...
ie : ancient phat farm coat (full 19min version)

the lenny penny mix was on a promo cd..

also it would be nice to have other unreleased promos
(of JAL to tokyo)

anyways, there's a lot more,
looking forward to newer releases also..

later
-1

[TheBang]

UW got nothing for the promos. I think it's only fair to pay now for the whole thing.
There are plenty of other times where UW doesn't get my money directly though e.g. I bought AHDO on the secondary market. It would be nice to buy these if I had unlimited funds. Unfortunately, having already paid $150+ for the promos and vinyls, I can't justify spending more again for the same stuff.

See, that's the thing. In early 2006, Underworld had said that in addition to the vinyls the tracks would be available for purchase on their website. They never were though. If they had been made available then as they are now, I probably would have bought those instead of the promo CD's. And when they make them available, I buy all kinds of things directly from them: Live in Tokyo, all the LHN discs, In the Belly of St. Paul.

[Spooky Shoes]

UW got nothing for the promos.

Which truly is a shame but that is by their choice, make the promotional material appeal to collectors by including material that is not available on the standard release, send it out to some douche on the rotation list who is not going to use it for it's intended purpose but supplement his/her income by selling it to the highest bidder. Sadly it is whomever makes the material available who makes the money.

well, its a start..i guess.

Indeed it is but at times I can't help feeling that I am being punished for loyalty and having an obsessive compulsive disorder when it come down to the music though.


good for people that don't have it yet..
good job..


Agreed.


now what about:
loads of birds
other exclusive mixes (japanese releases) etc...
ie : ancient phat farm coat (full 19min version)

the lenny penny mix was on a promo cd..

also it would be nice to have other unreleased promos
(of JAL to tokyo)

anyways, there's a lot more,
looking forward to newer releases also..


Fingers crossed for lossless versions of tracks of that have so far only been available as MP3's..

It would be nice to buy these if I had unlimited funds. Unfortunately, having already paid $150+ for the promos and vinyls, I can't justify spending more again for the same stuff.

I've spent roughly the same.

OWB (Japanese) ended up costing me £50+ after I got stung for duty.

I would rather spend this money directly but as it stands this option doesn't exist.... Here's hoping.

[m.g.]

It's a start, yes... it's very cool & I'm very happy with this. Thanks indeed to everybody @ UW HQ involved in (finally...) putting this online... :)

erm... keeping my fingers crossed atm to get one day the non-LHN gigs which were trully fantastic (Hamburg, Berlin & specially Frankfurt) ;)

[khouri]

I agree with the collective that this is quite underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that Underworld have finally made some progress on this digital store, and I'm glad it looks like it will be archival.

But beginning with EPs and promo singles that are already several years old seems rather a bad idea, as fans loooooong ago gave up hope of the band making these things widely available and obtained the music illegally. I for one would have happily paid Underworld whatever they asked for new songs and remixes years ago when this stuff came out (and I will continue to hope to pay them whatever they want for new music going forwad), but they just wouldn't let me. Now, asking me to pay these prices and in these restricted formats for old music and dodgy remixes is disappointing. Let's not forget Nine Inch Nails launched a site where fans could download virtually every dodgy NIN remix for free.

Thinking about just how old the RiverRun stuff is, I find myself wondering if this is what a record company's actually good for: getting the music out there, whether on iTunes or in shops or wherever; just AVAILABLE because people actually WANT to pay for it, and they want to pay for it NOW.

Going forward, I hope we see the unreleased versions and true rarities others have mentioned offered in mp3, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and hopefully zipped for convenience's sake.

[crank]

man we are a bunch of whiney bitches ain't we?
(on the off chance someone takes offense at this, i said WE)

[mondokat]

I was just waiting for the initial rush and I'm going to go buy everything in the store. I know, I'm late. But looks like I can now get a bunch of stuff relatively cheap. Woot! Notice how I'm not complaining!

[Vectorman0]

As someone who didn't get these the first time around, it's great to finally have these available to get. It's too bad at this point I already got them all on promo cd's and 12". I'll probably get the lossless versions here, but the collector in me won't want to sell of the hard-copies I have already acquired.

I agree it would have been spectacular if they would have released something new to start it off. My only other complaint is that they don't have the Riverruns and Lenny Penne available in high quality. The Riveruns would be big, but they could charge more as they did with the others.

I'm also noticed that the Live Here Now CD store is listed as being "temporary" on the new shop homepage. While their CD's are nice, the slow turnaround time and zero communication is something I won't be missing. I hope UW takes over and through their site offers downloads, actual CD's, or both. Though I like having actual CD's if given the option.

[nosajmunson]

The Book of Jam 3 is now up in the members section. All the goodies from the Oblivion Ball. Just finished downloading it and I've only just breifly looked, but it seems pretty good.

[big screen satellite]

nice to see Karl is influenced by my pictures... (as from today's picture)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigscreensatellite/1614398650/in/set-72157602490711784/

[Jan]

I've just listened to the lossless Play Pig (Pig & Dan Mix 2) from the store when I noticed some typical MPEG artifacts... The pre-echo artifacts at 0:03 are quite obvious. I'd certainly expect to hear them on the MP3 version but not on the lossless one. It's the same on the promo CDs. Some of the remixes are affected, but the UW tracks seem fine.

I thought I'd check the spectrum of the tracks to confirm my suspicion (some examples):
Play Pig (Pig & Dan Mix 3) (http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3581/03pe9.png)
JAL To Tokyo (Paul Woolford Dub) (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9207/03dm4.png)
That looks like some MPEG compression to me. Maybe the iTunes MP3 encoder.
It surprises me that those files are supposed to be the lossless masters. Has there been an encoding error or are these really the best versions available? Have these 'lossy' masters also been used for the vinyl version?

Furthermore the 300x300 pixel artworks seem a little too small for PC viewing. I rather expected something like 300 dots per inch than 300 dots for the whole cover. Some words are barely decipherable.

[Dirty0900]

You must have ears like a er...hawk. Mine must be clogged with wax. Why not get a stats list going where we can compare flaws with various formats! CD V MP3 v Viynl V Tape!

People on here never seem happy.

[Jan]

I don't have golden ears. But I do care for sound quality. If you don't, that's fine.
But that is not the point. The point is that I paid for lossless files but got lossy files that have been converted to lossless. There should be a good reason for that that I'd like to know. I somehow feel ripped off.

[King of Snake]

If you think something is wrong I'd say it would be best to try and contact underworldlive support about it.
They've had to correct files before (one of the Riverrun's had an incorrect bitrate at one point I believe).

[dubman]

schandenfreude!
seriously though if thats the case thats pretty messed up and hard to excuse

[BeautifulBurnout]

A Forest has to be my favourite Cure song. So incredibly atmospheric and evocative.

And timeless, too. As popular today with indie teenagers as it was in its own day. I walked past my 12 yr old's room a little while back and heard it playing - he had found it on YouTube too. He was a tad irritated that I knew it and was singing along.... ;)

[patrick]

i figure your song might be a bit of a diamond in the rough with his tastes. I have met very few people my age (25ish) that know it let-a-lone(?) people half my age...

But I agree with you fully that it is top song for the cure!

[mondokat]

I've just listened to the lossless Play Pig (Pig & Dan Mix 2) from the store when I noticed some typical MPEG artifacts... The pre-echo artifacts at 0:03 are quite obvious. I'd certainly expect to hear them on the MP3 version but not on the lossless one. It's the same on the promo CDs. Some of the remixes are affected, but the UW tracks seem fine.

In UW's defense, the web site doesn't say they are giving you the "Lossless Masters", they say they are giving you "CD Quality AIFF Files". Considering that AIFF-C is commonly referred to as AIFF in the Mac world, it shouldn't be too completely surprising if they are AIFF-C files, albeit with the compression turned almost off. The files ARE huge, after all.

It sounds like you might be trying to say these AIFF files were created from the mp3's, but I would really doubt that that is the case. UW aren't that heartless. It could be that the samples used in the masters are lossy. These things were sort of created "for fun" anyway. I suppose the real test would be for someone to rip the vinyl and post the waveform like you did for comparison. That's the only way to be sure.

Any takers?

At the same time, I purchased the mp3's and didn't notice any compression artifacts, so obviously my ears are no meter for this level of quality, and I don't have a fancy spectrometer like you... :P

[holden]

It could be that the samples used in the masters are lossy. These things were sort of created "for fun" anyway. I suppose the real test would be for someone to rip the vinyl and post the waveform like you did for comparison. That's the only way to be sure.
...
At the same time, I purchased the mp3's and didn't notice any compression artifacts, so obviously my ears are no meter for this level of quality, and I don't have a fancy spectrometer like you... :P

i think you're onto something with this. The RR songs were supposedly experiments, written on laptops in transit/hotels, etc. I don't think that means they are sub-par sonically or "lossy", but they are by admission of the band, rougher and more immediate. Some of the unusual sounds might reflect this.

Concerning the mp3s, i recall a few compression glitches in "Lovely Broken Thing" when i first downloaded it (wow, was that 10/05? Doesn't seem that long ago!), and later there was a change in the bitrate of PFE (i think). But these certainly didn't distract me from the experience, either. I'm used to hearing mixes in 128 or 160 kb/s, so maybe i'm less critical. Then again, I'm guessing that since many people are listening to mp3 compression of some sort anyway, the lossy artifacts are inherent to their listening experience.

I can see how one might be disappointed to shell out the bucks for the AIFF and hear apparent problems. For me, i'm happy with the 192 kb/s mp3s' burned to CD with the printed out pdf. Feels more homemade, like a personal, somewhat -unexpected (at least back in 05-06) gift from UW.
:p

[TheBang]

It was I'm a Big Sister which was originally posted in 160 Kbps 48.0 KHz. It was reposted the next day at 192 Kbps 44.1 KHz (like the previous releases).

[switchbladesusie]

Re: Today's outlook on news always being negative

Team Underworld need to listen to Carbon/Silicon's The News. Catchy little number!

[Cadevil]

Today: Studios building vibes

Riverrun #4 or a radio show, maybe...

[gillenium]

Jellyfish!

Ah, this makes me want to go to an aquarium. I've always had a fascination with aquariums..

[lloyd]

Niki de Saint Phalle..
My fav dutch band the Nits (http://www.nits.nl/) wrote a song about the love between Niki and Jean Tinguely (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tinguely) called Grrr...to you. Niki wrote Grrr...to you under each letter she wrote him (the legend goes)

[dubman]

holy shit i can hardly believe it.


APRIL FOOLS WAS OVER TWO WEEKS AGO ARE YOU KIDDING ME WHAT IS THIS

i think they might be doing this for all the people whining about the recent remixes....
"no.. THIS will be the WORST THING EVER BAHAHAHAHA"

i feel silly even thinking of the possibility that it isnt a massive joke
but if it isnt
oh god.

[faxedinvitation]

that wasn't there an hour or so ago :rolleyes: it's um.... interesting?

[m.g.]

Mmm... "live broadcasts" (http://www.underworldlive.com/live-broadcasts.html) menu added on uwlive mainpage + a "listen again" of the "Underworld vs The Misterons" on the same page... ;)

I have to say that I like this red & black artwork that they're using nowadays... reminds me of Kraftwerk's "The Man Machine" (http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=1082760) period, which was influenced by El Lissitzky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Lissitzky), a Russian artist of the 1920's that I like a lot... (btw Lissitzky also influenced Peter Saville...).

Lovely :)

[gillenium]

Haha, anyone else notice that the promise of publishing Book of Jam 4 by the end of April has been removed?

I don't mind a delay, I just think it's funny :)

[pafufta816]

Haha, anyone else notice that the promise of publishing Book of Jam 4 by the end of April has been removed?

I don't mind a delay, I just think it's funny :)design processes are notorious for taking 14012093802938 times longer than you anticipate.

[TheBang]

But, but . . . they promised!

It's possible that it was just removed to condense space on the front page. Both the BoJ and Ring Road graphics have been size reduced since their original posting. I assume to make the webcast more prominent at the top.

[gillenium]

Karl wishes for a world train today. I think this is sort've what he had in mind - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bOJE_F9yL0

Would that be great or what?

[Flywaver]

Karl wishes for a world train today. I think this is sort've what he had in mind - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bOJE_F9yL0

Would that be great or what?


Noooo i am not driving! But UnderworldRail has gotta be better than the current franchise i am under!

[m.g.]

Beautiful images (photographic essay by Rick Smith) to be downloaded today in uwlive (http://www.underworldlive.com/home.html) site (hi-res in the member section, low-res direct from the home page). Very nice, specially for technical objects photography lovers... ;)

[galama]

His photographic skills are awesome. I'm wondering though who takes the photos on the daily photo journal on uwlive?

[dubman]

karl does the cellphone/everyday fun project idea stuff

looks like rick has the stationary-nice-lens/hi-rez end.

he mentioned it on an update once.

nice set, i love the presentation. although the thing about highlighting an exact, precise machine that complex and specially geared is that perhaps the photos should reflect that by being as precise as the machine itself.
a few of them seem a little blurred/dont have a clear focus.

just sayin'

[TheBang]

a few of them seem a little blurred/dont have a clear focus.

It's called depth of field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field), and I think the photos are very nice.

[dubman]

it's called your mom
and i know what depth of field is.
maybe i put it nicely when i said a few of them lack a clear focus
i guess i meant to say that there's no focus at all in some of these. as in even where the focal point is, it's not as sharp as it should be. because it's blurred.
k? now unless i need glasses you can cut the condescension.

anyway, karl offhandedly asked for music rec's
BRUNO PRONSATO
BRUNO PRONSATO
BRUNO PRONSATO
BRUNO PRONSATO

[TheBang]

jeez, chill out. I honestly didn't know if you knew or not, hence the Wikipedia link. Which ones in particular have no focus at all? I only gave it a cursory glance, but I thought every photo had a point of focus.

Edit: So I got home and blew up the high-rez PDF on my 30-inch monitor. Every page except page "05" (page 6 of the PDF) has a well-defined focus subject. On page "05" the field of focus seems to be in the middle of the cylinder as you can see the left side of the cylinder in focus as it curves around. I don't know if that was an artistic choice, but all the photos aside from that one seem fine to me.

[dubman]

it really is hardly off, and in an effort to make a statement i probably overdid it, but in comparison to the clarity of 06 and 09, it's 01, 05, 08, and 04 which dont *quite* crystallize as well.

dammit, cant i even just make a passing mention without turning into an asshole, YOU MAKE ME DO THIS :mad:

[cacophony]

it's called your mom

good god, how i laughed.

[River of Bass]

is this new..or what?

09-august-08 all points west manhatten usa
07-september-08 bestival isle of wight uk

:)

[TheBang]

Who is the Brotherhood of the Setlist? Rick and Darren?

[Dirty0900]

Who is the Brotherhood of the Setlist? Rick and Darren?

Judging by personal experiences, they all get a say in what is played. But the setlist is never stuck to at all, doesn't account for what improvs will be played and if any of Darrens stuff is to be slid in.

[gillenium]

Yeah, their setlists are pretty meaningless. You should see the line of cue cards that they stuck on the table at Atlanta. Had songs like Little Speaker and Push Upstairs that were not played at all.

[negative1]

Judging by personal experiences, they all get a say in what is played. But the setlist is never stuck to at all, doesn't account for what improvs will be played and if any of Darrens stuff is to be slid in.

maybe now they don't now,but on last years tour
they stuck to them 95-100% of the time..
(for the shows i saw them)..especially when
the stats showed them repeating songs,
orders, and other facets of the show..multiple times..

so what does that mean?

later
-1

[khouri]

How is one able to see the setlists and cue cards at any show?

[TheBang]

Ask the crew after the show. They're really nice.

[Dirty0900]

Ask the crew after the show. They're really nice.

Haha yup, i got three setlists at home;)

Love todays shot from the ladies FA Cup final. I actually watched the second half and it was very entertaining. The game had a lot of flow to it, not full of divers and filled with goals. Totally unlike the Newcastle v Chelsea game I watched later on. So does that mean your an Arsenal fan Karl?

[dubnobasswithme]

i really like the first-person view on the uwlive.com pic with all the 'electric eyes' :D

[dubman]

now, i did like the video for boy boy boy, but after seeing the video for ring road i finally feel really satisfied after watching.

man, what can't you do with type

[change]

Parc is now streaming under the artwork for The Bells, The Bells. Sounds like the live version we've heard cleaned up quite a bit. :)

[essbee]

Very bottom of Pete Tong's page linked today says the following:

'Next weeks show...will be a pretty special show with some very special guests live from Maidstone...'

Wonder if it's anyone we know ? :cool:

[holden]

TWO new Book of Jam pdf's now up on UWLive.com :)

[dubman]

looks like theres just one to me, and its more of a stopgap than a BOJ.

nice though. used to do this sort of thing all the time (for different reasons, obv.) and it's quite fun to do, look at, and appreciate how it can be made to fit the vision you had for it.
though honestly it strikes me as going uphill trying to make that horse painting interesting.

[m.g.]

There's of course "only" one new BoJ... which is gorgeous, though...

[holden]

Yeah, okay, only one Book of Jam, proper, but the added "hald" of the "WhistleJacket" portfolio makes for two very beautiful collections of photos (and some text).


i seriously need to start printing these out for more detailed viewing.

[TheBang]

I think you're confused, holden. Book of Jam 4 came out a month ago. Book of Jam 4.5 (aka WhistleJacket) came out today.

[holden]

I think you're confused, holden. Book of Jam 4 came out a month ago. Book of Jam 4.5 (aka WhistleJacket) came out today.

Am i losing my mind? :o Book of Jam 3 came out in early April...this is the first i'm seeing BoJ 4 and 4.5 and i check UWlive and the forums (almost) every day! Were they mentioned? Not in this thread, anyway.
Edit: Just found this thread: Book of Jam 4: Book of Time

My mind is going. I can feel it.


Nonetheless, i'm glad to see these!

[TheBang]

The spot returns, eh?

[aNt]

i love the dark spot ;)

[qirex]

I like how they ask r&K

"Have you ever not played Born Slippy live and if so how'd the fans react"?

r&K "we value our lives"

[ndrwrld]

i love the Lee Perry push...he's playing a free summer music and arts thing here in Toronto. (see, i told you Toronto was cool ! )
the man's epic.

[lloyd]

Dunno about backstage food, should be good for all those super-artists. But, best grub I ever had on a festival was at Roskilde, on a normal plate, with normal metal fork/knife/spoon, sitting in a nice tent at a table in a plastic chair eating roasted duck and had to choose between 5 salads... And the roasted ox next to the green tent before seeing The Residents. Still water fills my mouth thinking about it.

[idoru]

Many points for the link to the Difference Engine today. Fantastic book.
________
HAWAII MEDICAL MARIJUANA (http://hawaii.dispensaries.org/)

[juanitanyc]

Mention of a search for a Belfegore video for "All That I Wanted" today ....
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/belfegore-all-that-i-wanted/2098261059

[aNt]

looks like the underworldlive shop has new stuff, like 'real' hold in your hands stuff... how thrilling :)

[Jan]

woot!

[TheBang]

Well done.

With shipping, The Bells The Bells comes out to just a tad more than what I paid for it through HMV. I'd imagine it's much better for U.K. fans, and possibly European too.

Bring on the exclusives!

[aNt]

yes the shipping costs are different for locations around the world.

for the moment i've kept the store nice and slick, i didn't want to overload everyone with 'one-offs' and exclusives; far to much candy... but be warned we are not like the high street, when it says limited it means its the box under mike's desk or the unsee albums from karls collection (just don't tell him); if you see anything on the store that says 'could take up to 2 years to ship', that'll be something i've made...

hehehe- its LIVE TODAY!!!

[BeautifulBurnout]

Nice one aNt.

Looking forward to real live Bells to hold in my hand any day now :D

[spacejunk]

Yay! :)

[crank]

Sorry to be dense, but to save on Shipping I'm thinking of waiting on the Bells, the Bells... UNLESS you tell me you have 10 sitting under your desk and then i'll need to order now...

was that clear at all?

if there are other products i want, i'll order all at once. ESP. since the conversion rate is now half. wonderful strong dollar we have.

[BrotherLovesDub]

so, i'm assuming everyone who complained about having to order from Japan have ordered now?

that's what i thought. keep coming up with excuses.

[dubman]

i just hate remixes.

[darktrain]

so, i'm assuming everyone who complained about having to order from Japan have ordered now?

damn skippy! now how about some Oblivion Ball for sale?!

[BeautifulBurnout]

uwlive today: "The Wind Cries "Mary", the sky cries, "Rick! - Rick! - Karl! - Karl!" & the Breakfast buffet just cries when it sees Pricey coming."

ROFL :D

[TheBang]

the Breakfast buffet just cries when it sees Pricey coming."
I had my suspicions about Pricey after the empty plate (http://www.underworldlive.com/livebroadcasts/080423-essex/mainColumnParagraphs/01/content_files/file0/080423c.jpg) at the 2008-04-23 broadcast, and after he ate all the buns at the Southampton broadcast, but now this confirms it! :eek:

[BeautifulBurnout]

Fanfare for the Common Man - ELP.

My word, that takes me back! Excellent! :D

[crazysugarboy]

Fanfare for the Common Man - ELP.

My word, that takes me back! Excellent! :D

Me too Janie! Always loved that video (before the term was properly used) - and also - I remember back in 1980 a friend came home from uni with a tape of that full version with the semi-improv jazzy keyboard solo - it just blew me away - and - yestie was the first time that I'd heard it since then!!

[BeautifulBurnout]

Wow! Listened to Eileen Derbyshire's "experimental dance track" from the 60s that was linked to on today's page, and it sounds like something that could have been done by any number of minimal/IDM artists last week! :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7512072.stm

There's nothing new under the sun, eh? ;)

[dubman]

too bad she didnt think it was anything good.

[gillenium]

The Studio Ghibli Museum! I'm so jealous...

[Dirty0900]

Yeah - sorry about the NY/Jersey mix up, we're Essex boys a long way from home - The 'quote'
dirty0900 found reads really odd - for the record some of those things I don't recall some aren't right -
maybe I was having a day being someone else. Baltimore was great - people came to dance
& join in the jam & we felt their energy - thank you - like your city a lot. met Spearhead (http://www.myspace.com/spearheadvibrations) in NY

This is just posted for my own personal amusement from UWlive today.

[swannman]

New Essex Sky photos today but the individual images are broken — looks like each image URL is pointing to a path on Rick's computer rather than on the website?

[swannman]

…and fixed. Lovely!

[lloyd]

Yeah, impressive docu. Right from the start you are stunned by the size of things and impact of china's industrial/economic revolution.

[phaseblue]

Yeah, impressive docu. Right from the start you are stunned by the size of things and impact of china's industrial/economic revolution.

For those thousands of people working in those massive factories, doing highly repetitive jobs for extremely low pay (and surely no benefits to speak of), it really begs the question "What is the purpose/meaning of life?" Is it to slave away for a huge "private tyranny" (a corporation), making cheap products with 5-10 year engineered obsolescence, with the end result that they may come around full circle and end up in a toxic dump somewhere back in the country where they originated from, only to be picked apart by another group of unwitting servants, who will extract the useful materials and send them off to a factory where the process starts all over again? But, I guess you have to eat!

The future of the world looks bleak, but unfortunately the present looks pretty bad already!

Thank god for people like Rick and Karl who bring some light into it :)

[m.g.]

Great & very impressive photos by Edward Burtynsky... (and not only the China ones)

[aNt]

new area of the underworldlive shop is up by the looks of things....

[dubman]

t-shirts and socks are back!

[holden]

yay merch!

But i'm also pretty happy about today's update: Smith & Hyde back in the studio together writing new material!:)

[aNt]

its all going on :)

[sanakan]

arrgh, 'tis gonna cost me.. damn you ant! ;)

[nosajmunson]

Love today's pic.

Underworld & Doctor Who. Nothing says loving like Karl & Rick, Cybermen & Time Lords.

http://www.underworldlive.com/home/mainColumnParagraphs/00/content_files/file/091308.jpg

[swannman]

Today's "story of a guitar" is great -- thanks, Karl!

[m.g.]

Today's "story of a guitar" is great -- thanks, Karl!Exactly what I thought as I just read it. Great story & excellent style of writing.

[galama]

I've never seen a bigger post than this one. It's a long one, and a good one. He should do this again...a short story perhaps.

[ndrwrld]

tractors are cool.

[grady]

A nice little video of a whistling Mr. Smith in the world of lemon today.

I really like these little video bits that used to spring up from time to time.

Perhaps more to come?

[Ninja Power]

That was cool :)
quirky and interesting all at the same time.

[sbommer]

I was just trying out some screencapture software, so I had a go at today's videoclip: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6GDP4RC0

It´s very pixelated but still better than nothing, I guess.

[TheBang]

Feel free to visit our tea party anytime, Rick!

[BeautifulBurnout]

LOL at "mad as a chat room"...

:D

[dubman]

more things added to merch section. more tour t-shirts and the badges are back.

these posts recently have been really wonderful to read. i like just scrolling up and down the site and seeing so much to read and see. real nice.

[nosajmunson]

Speaking of shirts, my shirt that came with the Oblivion with Bells fancy edition has been shrunk due to a evil dryer mishap involving my son and a cat.

Anyone know where I can get that same shirt, size XL?

[TheBang]

That's one of the new ones in the shop. Unfortunately, it's only available in Men's Small. Looks like you might be SOL, and I never saw that one sold at the shows (only the women's baby doll version).

[nosajmunson]

That's one of the new ones in the shop. Unfortunately, it's only available in Men's Small. Looks like you might be SOL, and I never saw that one sold at the shows (only the women's baby doll version).

It's close, but not quite the same.
The super fun fun version of OWB came with a slightly different version of the shirt that's on the website now.

The uber-edition shirt had the font on the upper left side of the chest. If anybody has one they want to sell, let me know. I miss that shirt.

NOT THIS ONE.
http://www.underworldlive.com/shop/previews/Mens-Purple-T-shirt/mainColumnParagraphs/0/content_files/file/menspurpleteelarge.jpg

This one:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9246/0919082202ir1.jpg

[TheBang]

Oh yeah. (I don't wear mine that much.)

Well, then, I've never seen that one for sale anywhere, except with the CD.

[nosajmunson]

Oh yeah. (I don't wear mine that much.)

Well, then, I've never seen that one for sale anywhere, except with the CD.

Bummer, that's what I feared. Well, if you ever see one, let me know.
Maybe the shop will have some new shirts up soon. One can only hope.

[dubman]

i have one, but i dont know if you'd want it
i tend to wear out whatever uw merch i have, mine has seen the wash n dry quite a few times ;)
i also still have the year of entertainment weekly that they just sort of tossed in there as a bonus.

[grady]

i have one, but i dont know if you'd want it
i tend to wear out whatever uw merch i have, mine has seen the wash n dry quite a few times ;)
i also still have the year of entertainment weekly that they just sort of tossed in there as a bonus.
HA! I got the year of EW too, but I think that came from LiveNation. When you would proceed through the checkout at their site they offer you a complimentary subscription which I initially declined. About 8 weeks later in October, EW started arriving at my apt. Now as the subscription is due to expire I'm inundated with direct mailings urging me to renew.

[dubman]

it makes much more sense that it comes from livenation
when i first started getting it i was so confused... thought i figured it out...

[grady]

it makes much more sense that it comes from livenation
when i first started getting it i was so confused... thought i figured it out...
I too was confused. It took a phone call and waiting on hold before confirming that it was complimentary and my card hadn't been charged by the people at LiveNation.

[TheBang]

I'm pretty sure Karl means "Born Slippery". That's my friends' favorite song.

[lloyd]

I still have a polaroid cam somewhere. perhaps I should look for some film at the local store.
I've seen amazing tricks with polaroids where they got the chemical layer of the paper and put it on other photopaper. Looks great.
And back when this kind of film was new, my dad somehow fixed a pack of polaroid film to the back of a (I think I remember even a glassplate) bellows voigtlander like this (not this model) http://www.thecamerasite.net/03_Folder_Cameras/Images/Voigtlander-Plate.jpg Large apertures for DOF and Landscape shots somehow gave rather good results.
The fun of waiting for the result has never been equaled in photography again.
No youngsters, digital is not the same trill.

[crazysugarboy]

I still have a polaroid cam somewhere. perhaps I should look for some film at the local store.
I've seen amazing tricks with polaroids where they got the chemical layer of the paper and put it on other photopaper. Looks great.
And back when this kind of film was new, my dad somehow fixed a pack of polaroid film to the back of a (I think I remember even a glassplate) bellows voigtlander like this (not this model) http://www.thecamerasite.net/03_Folder_Cameras/Images/Voigtlander-Plate.jpg Large apertures for DOF and Landscape shots somehow gave rather good results.
The fun of waiting for the result has never been equaled in photography again.
No youngsters, digital is not the same trill.

Peter Gabriel's third album - the cover artwork was produced by taking polaroid pics and then manipulating them before they were fully developed (I don't truly understand the technique) to create the "melting" look.

It is such a shame that his truly amazing, yet expensive, photo process is now essentially dead. Oh well

[BrotherLovesDub]

I too was confused. It took a phone call and waiting on hold before confirming that it was complimentary and my card hadn't been charged by the people at LiveNation.

that's why i've been getting Entertainment Weekly! my girlfriend loves it.

[nosajmunson]

This is fantastic.
Read the home page then check this image.
Fanstatic:

http://www.underworldlive.com/home/New-York-Conversation/mainColumnParagraphs/0/content_files/file/newyorkconversation1.jpg

[grady]

that's why i've been getting Entertainment Weekly! my girlfriend loves it.
And now we know where the hefty LiveNation ticket fees went to. We got Entertainment Weekly for one year!

[galama]

New scripts are profoundly enriching uwlive. i bow to R,K and JW, they're keeping me transfixed to the screen.

[galama]

(top tip for all you attending our recent New York exhibition (http://www.superheadz.com/goldenhalf/index.html))

aaah! tHe camera :)

[nosajmunson]

New Sections
Audio
Art
Video

All have mutliple sections: This Week, Last Week, Other Weeks

Video has a hand full of vids, art has some of the BOJ and Audio says coming soon & Test.

Could this be the return of the Archive, finally. And new stuff to be posted weekly. Gigs, Unreleased, etc......

Foaming at mouth, fingers tingle..........

[TheBang]

Sounds like the Archive to me. Yay!!

The diary archives look cool.

Can't wait for the other sections to start getting filled in.

Edit: AAAND they're gone. Actually, they're still there, but the links on the front page are gone. Everything was "Coming Soon" anyway, except for the diary archives. I didn't see any content like nosajmunson did.

[Dirty0900]

New Sections
Audio
Art
Video

All have mutliple sections: This Week, Last Week, Other Weeks

Video has a hand full of vids, art has some of the BOJ and Audio says coming soon & Test.

Could this be the return of the Archive, finally. And new stuff to be posted weekly. Gigs, Unreleased, etc......

Foaming at mouth, fingers tingle..........

Oooooooooo aNt. Its like foreplay.

[nosajmunson]

Sounds like the Archive to me. Yay!!

The diary archives look cool.

Can't wait for the other sections to start getting filled in.

Edit: AAAND they're gone. Actually, they're still there, but the links on the front page are gone. Everything was "Coming Soon" anyway, except for the diary archives. I didn't see any content like nosajmunson did.

Yeah, looks like they took it back down very shortly after I posted it.
Under the audio section there wasn't anything, it just said "test. test, test" over and over again. But it had tabbed sections for This week, last week, and more.

Under the videos it had Ring Road, Ring Road Version, The Balloon Drop and 2 others I can't remember.

Hope it comes back soon.............

[crazysugarboy]

What utterly gorgeous photos, from I assume Karl, on today's page of the misty dawn - so, so peaceful :)

[Jan]

The diaries are online. :)
Layout is well done.

[TheBang]

Yup, that's how it looked when I saw it. Just waiting for the "Coming Soon" to come. :)

[mark3]

Brixton Academy cds available for pre-order... Live here Now cds, probably. So here we go again with their crappy service, I guess :rolleyes:

[dubman]

well i hope this pre-order goes on until the day of the concert.... getting my portfolio and business things together and it's left me with about $30 for the week...

[negative1]

Brixton Academy cds available for pre-order... Live here Now cds, probably. So here we go again with their crappy service, I guess :rolleyes:


this time, i'm just going to email the liveherenow manager
directly, and put in an order that way..

i'm not going to go through that process again..

i want some assurance this time around..

later
-1

[BeautifulBurnout]

I shall just buy both after the gig on Saturday :p

[potatobroth]

i preordered em. so happy.

point of interest that have probably been mentioned already:
1) in Firefox, the 'add to cart' link doesn't actually take you to your cart, nor is there a way to get to your cart from this page: http://underworldlive.com/shop.html

[negative1]

hmmmm ..... mp3 downloads after the show is done..

this will be interesting to see how it works out..

and a download option for it in WAV format... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm


9 days later..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

later
-1

[chimp]

Just to let you all know:

1. All UW/LHN CD orders will now be processed and dispatched by underworldlive.com and our fulfillment partner.

2. The Brixton CDs will not be available to purchase at the venue, only at uwive.com

Hope that helps :)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Just to let you all know:



2. The Brixton CDs will not be available to purchase at the venue, only at uwive.com

Hope that helps :)

Ahhhh bugger it. :D

Oh well - online ordering it is then ;)

[negative1]

Just to let you all know:

2. The Brixton CDs will not be available to purchase at the venue, only at uwive.com

Hope that helps :)

err , you had it right in the first part !@ uwive.com??????

thanks again...

later
-1 (cheeky monkey)

[BeautifulBurnout]

I hope I can learn to revel in the joys of winter the same way Karl does. I am very much of the "wears out its welcome by January" school.

I shall take a leaf from your book ;) and give it a try...

[dubman]

hah today's one is amusing.
and yes, that lindstrom record is all kinds of wonderful.

bets on when/if he adresses these new dubno tracks floating about??

[Vectorman0]

bets on when/if he adresses these new dubno tracks floating about??

If they don't, someone should definitely ask next live radio show.

[grady]

Today's photo made me think of Singing in the Rain, especially Rick's outstretched arms.

It seems like the new tracks would be addressed before the next radioshow, just my guess.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Always Loved a Film studio version coming to the webshop?

[holden]

Always Loved a Film studio version coming to the webshop?

We can hope!

[gillenium]

HA! Best Underworldlive.com photo EVER!

[DwarfeD]

Loved the story 2day, always nice to read some about the history of my favourite band :)

[vel]

Hi all.

I cant seem to ever listen to the live broadcasts or the listen again. the controls just dont appear on the screen.

I have had this issue for ages but never got to the bottom of it.

I have rebuilt my PC a couple of times and still no joy.

I have quicktime installed.

Anyone got any ideas please :D

aiii

[swannman]

Agreed, I check UWLive.com over coffee every morning and this has been great reading -- it's one thing for fans to track down UW history, and something entirely different to hear the inside story from the band. Karl's perspective on the emotional bond between musician and instrument has also been really interesting.

[lloyd]

brilliant story about the guitar.

[mmm skyscraper]

Hi all.

I cant seem to ever listen to the live broadcasts or the listen again. the controls just dont appear on the screen.

I have had this issue for ages but never got to the bottom of it.

I have rebuilt my PC a couple of times and still no joy.

I have quicktime installed.

Anyone got any ideas please :D

aiii

rtsp://a270.q.kamai.net/3/270/2046/48c92d3f/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117f/iow_080910_100.mov

Try opening that in quicktime. It's the latest show. If it works I can post the other direct links later.

[vel]

rtsp://a270.q.kamai.net/3/270/2046/48c92d3f/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117f/iow_080910_100.mov

Try opening that in quicktime. It's the latest show. If it works I can post the other direct links later.

Yeah that works mate...cheers.

[mmm skyscraper]

11th June 2008
rtsp://a271.q.kamai.net/3/271/2046/4851132b/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117faede16467cadde/080611n_100.mov

23rd April 2008
rtsp://a302.qt1vod.kamai.net/3/302/2046/480fa70b/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117faede16467aacdf0e3e6f/080423_1000.mov

12th Dec 2007
rtsp://a411.qt1vod.kamai.net/3/411/2046/47b1de69/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117f/n071212_1000.mov

[vel]

11th June 2008
rtsp://a271.q.kamai.net/3/271/2046/4851132b/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117faede16467cadde/080611n_100.mov

23rd April 2008
rtsp://a302.qt1vod.kamai.net/3/302/2046/480fa70b/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117faede16467aacdf0e3e6f/080423_1000.mov

12th Dec 2007
rtsp://a411.qt1vod.kamai.net/3/411/2046/47b1de69/1a1a1a6bda50b91e91bf30a41a48a91989f55a88eb5ac7f663 d248b11689b82c9b0869dd4c7bf05ec22799107ff15dc1f05c c538ac117fe047a8117f/n071212_1000.mov

thanks again...My Zune will be pleased!! :D

[m.g.]

brilliant story about the guitar.Exactly what I think.

[BrotherLovesDub]

rick is right (as usual)

MORE GUITAR!!!!!!

[nosajmunson]

rick is right (as usual)

MORE GUITAR!!!!!!

Yes. More guitar.
Karl should release or post some jam sessions. Just him and one of his Les Pauls getting down and dirty. That would be sweet. And if Rick plays too, let's hear some 6 string duets.
Can you imagine 8 ball or Air Towel unplugged?

Oh, yeah, more cowbell too. I got a fever.......

[grady]

Yes. More guitar.
Karl should release or post some jam sessions. Just him and one of his Les Pauls getting down and dirty. That would be sweet. And if Rick plays too, let's hear some 6 string duets.
Can you imagine 8 ball or Air Towel unplugged?

I just keep imagining more guitar sounds like the ones on Parc.

[Techno_Bunny]

:D
omgomgomg!!!
My first real awareness of Music was and started with Deep Purple, when i was 14 and was at my very first real party.
And today for the first time i've seen my old heroes now cause of the link at UWlive :D
It never came to my mind to look for them at youtube :o
Ty Ty Ty !!!!

:D

[froopy seal]

I love the smell of wood (http://www.underworldlive.com/home/081012.html)
You?Me too.

[jrmint]

thank you for yesterdays mentioning of the bruno spoerri, always an inspiration..

i love the smell of freshly printed books.
and wood, yes, that too of course.

[vel]

Me too.

Where i work there is a group makin real fireplaces and the smell in there is heavenly!

If im having a bad day i go there to stimulate my nosebuds :D

[nosajmunson]

Finally, music to my ears...
http://www.underworldlive.com/home/mainColumnParagraphs/05/content_files/file/uwliveupdating.jpg

Wish List:
Anything New, Live sets from American 2007 tour, Always Loved a Film/Silver Boots.....

Can wait till this update is done.
-Jason

[Flywaver]

Whats the ETA on the update or anyones guess.
My wish list....................New Tunes! :D

[vel]

Whats the ETA on the update or anyones guess.
My wish list....................New Tunes! :D

Yeah whats the new format going to be....looking forward to the new wonders to behold :)

[holden]

Great photos of the lighting rehearsal the other day....the projections look really cool on the inflatables!

[TheBang]

Shop and Member's is back, but nothing new yet. Hopefully they were getting all the ducks in a row for the end of next week.

[Jan]

What is the size of the badges?

[TheBang]

If memory serves, I think they were about 2.5 inches in diameter.

[Jan]

thanks!

[lloyd]

Oink!

[Vectorman0]

I placed a big order on October 9th, and received it October 25th. I live in the United States, so I consider this pretty speedy. I also paid the flat £5 shipping, when it was more like £15 total.

Anyway, anyone who was put off by liveherenow shouldn't hesitate to order from underworldlive.com. They are handling orders very professionally.

[swannman]

Post by Karl on Perou's blog: http://www.perouinc.com/diary/

[Dirty0900]

Anyone able to zoom in and read the setlist thats pasted on the mixing desk? Ive had a go, buts its badly pixalated.

[DaddyAdv]

Anyone able to zoom in and read the setlist thats pasted on the mixing desk? Ive had a go, buts its badly pixalated.
Had the same idea, too. But no chance.

But who cares - Karl can fight Daleks with a flower !

[holden]

i don't think it's possible to read it, given the size of the original.
But i'd bet there's a "NUXX" on there :p

Dalek-fighting Karl - cool! I like his UW shirt, too!

[DaddyAdv]

I love today balloonhead pic!
Looks like they're actually real and its 's R&K underneath 'em :)

[dubman]

that could be because they are real ;)

[nosajmunson]

Today's pic and story

"I visited Robert Motherwell, but he was out for the afternoon
Frank Stella was on the lips of an old grey geeza havin' his ears bent
by two fierce daughters of the 60's"

I Love Robert Motherwell and I love that Karl Loves Motherwell too.

[Floating Dave]

The smell of hot Vimto, Camping in Criccieth, Canoeing at Black Rock Sands, Shopping in Porthmaddoc, Watching Logan's Run at the run-down cinema in Llandudno and dreaming of an imaginary future in Portmeirion.

As a teenager I was packed off each school holidays to stay with my musical uncle who'd 'retired from the biz' and moved to Snowdonia in the early 70s. Through him I met Cynthia Lennon and a very young Julian. He also introduced me to artists including Ed Povey (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northwest/halloffame/arts/edwardpovey.shtml) whose work could be seen brightening up the walls of Bangor shops under that slate grey sky.

I had my fortune told by the hippies living in their teepees just outside Bethesda. She said "You'll do something in music or art and whilst you'll be happy, you'll never make any money" while a well-worn Solid Air LP played on the record player.

I remember this every time I visit Castell Deudraeth (http://www.portmeirion-village.com/content.php?nID=24&lID=) or The Village (http://www.portmeirion-village.com/content.php?nID=21&lID=) and wonder "was she simply making an educated guess?"

Thanks for the wednesday morning memories Mr H :)

[Buji]

Great memories!

I used to love Black Rock Sands, one of the only beaches I remember where you could drive a car straight on the beach!

Used to stay on Shell Island camp site where the sea covered the road at high tide and one of my fave parts of the trip was visiting Portmerion and I was too young to know of The Prisoner! I visited again recently and stay at Snowdonia what a quality part of the world!

Also Wales seems to have Castle's that are in amazing condition, well protected!

[Lx_Nen]

Its a small world, I stayed at Shell Island for a few days last year, and the year before (amazing place, has it's own microclimate - pity it's usually a very soggy one), and we've had a few day trips to Porthmaddoc too. I've moved out from the suburban sprawl of Romford, and I'm now living 160 miles away in Worcester with my girlfriend. I had no idea when I moved here, but stumbling around Wikipedia I notice that there's an Underworld connection here too, it's where Karl was born.

[Futuregrapher]

That picture of Pricey made me smile.

and

School of Seven Bells are good.

[crazysugarboy]

That picture of Pricey made me smile.

and

School of Seven Bells are good.

I agree on both points. An album I adore is Secret Machines' debut, the former band of Seven Bells' guitarist:)

[idoru]

Will be seeing School of Seven Bells alongside M83 on the 25th. I'm pumped.
________
M5 (E28) (http://www.bmw-tech.org/wiki/BMW_M5_(E28))

[TheBang]

So that's how they decide the setlist. Throw down all the cards and then pick out and line them up. I can make out Lenny Penne, Peach Tree, Jumbo, ALAF, Twist, Oich Oich, and Born Slippy.

Nice to see D back in the mix too.

[Dirty0900]

So that's how they decide the setlist. Throw down all the cards and then pick out and line them up. I can make out Lenny Penne, Peach Tree, Jumbo, ALAF, Twist, Oich Oich, and Born Slippy.

Nice to see D back in the mix too.

Putting them all in a back and drawing them out at random could give for very strange results...

[dubnobasswithme]

i really liked today's post about not letting a bad day get to you. nice to see some positive thinking prevailing :)

[Rog]

+1:D

[galama]

Without knowing it I'd let the flow take hold of me & was opening to the possibilities of the day, free from the baggage of pre-conceptions. The hump had slipped off my back & my guard was down.
'Strangely' it turned into a really great day & though the dark was wet & the roads treacherous as I drove home I slowed down, turned on the radio & went with the flow.

++++++++ pluses all around. i love those days, love it when that spontaneous progression of moodiness towards feeling fulfilled by simply being. i'm feeling with karl.

[TheBang]

Does anyone know who "DW" is, our Moscow correspondent of late?

[mmm skyscraper]

Does anyone know who "DW" is, our Moscow correspondent of late?

Darkwing Duck? "When there's trouble, you call DW."

[holden]

Return of the Scribble Sticks:
http://www.underworldlive.com/home/081120.html

Love the high-contrast, random lines of the branches - these photos are practically Jackson Pollock all-over action paintings, which always looked like forests to me (indeed, Pollock had a cycle of totem and stick paintings)

[dubman]

last one looks like a pic from the second sigur ros album...

[galama]

So much jammin' to be done in the world with no need to judge one another by this obsession of every
news station to spread the fear - all this dark vibration colouring the picture the view from the top of our hill of the rest of the world telling me to be scared to step outside my front door.

Thank YOU! Thank you!

[shingo]

Could you anyone tell me an e-mail address of contact a person responsible in charge underworldlive.com shop?

I bought digital contents and physical CDs at underworldlive.com shop on Nov. 19th.

For the first few days, I could download the digital contents, but I couldn't get all the stuffs due to low speed of line, and then they disapeared from the list of my account page, so I can't get the rest of them now.

Meanwhile, I haven't heared anything about the order status of physical CDs. I've just received e-mail from paypal.com showing I made payment via paypal.com. I'm totally in the dark whether underworldlive.com has accepted my order or not.

I have already send e-mails two times to support@underworldlive.com following the procedure described in faq, but I've not received anything.

Could you please tell me how to contact a shop person?

[Troy McClure]

I've used mailto:sales@underworldlive.com (sales@underworldlive.com) with success. I've received a response within a day.

good luck, Jason

[Jan]

When I had a problem with a physical order, I contacted sales@underworldlive.com and the nice people there resolved it.

I've also had a problem with the digital shop when it was very new. Ant (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/member.php?u=294) is responsible for that. I've contacted him and he added the missing downloads to my profile.

[shingo]

Troy McClur and Jan,

Thank you so much for quick response!
I will try to contact sales@underworldlive.com for physical CDs and And for digital contents.

[dubman]

i dont think strumpet can be "improved" on without the high probablity of simply "messing it up" ;)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Sprouts and potatoes. Where's the turkey (http://www.benjaminzephaniah.com/content/64.php), Karl?

And while I'm at it, happy holiday to all you 'Mercans tomorrow. :D

[darktrain]

i dont think strumpet can be "improved" on without the high probablity of simply "messing it up" ;)

they could slightly lower the repeating/stuttering vocal sample in the mix

[dubman]

NO
NEIN
NON

[crazysugarboy]

i dont think strumpet can be "improved" on without the high probablity of simply "messing it up" ;)

My immediate thought also. However, they COULD make it even better. So far, the Fri night @ Brixton version is a blinder:)