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Yes - Vinyl 2 22.22%
Yes - High Definition Audio Formats 4 44.44%
Yes - Vinyl and High Definition Audio Formats 3 33.33%
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:46 PM
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Default And I Will Kiss - vinyl or high definition music release?

Does anyone know if the following track will be released on vinyl or other high definition music formats (e.g. 24bit (96khz or 192khz)?

Underworld feat. Dame Evelyn Glennie and the Pandemonium Drummers – And I Will Kiss

I want the track in higher quality than on the Isles Of Wonder: Music For The Opening Ceremony Of The London 2012 Olympic Games CD at 16bit 44.1khz - no where near enough for the amount of layering and energy in this 17 minute masterpiece!

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Old 05-23-2014, 12:18 AM
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24 bit flac pleasaaaassseee. I want as high quality of this as I can get.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: And I Will Kiss - 24bit (96khz or 192khz) or vinyl release

It's a nice thought, but I don't think it's going to happen.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: And I Will Kiss - 24bit (96khz or 192khz) or vinyl release

What exactly is wrong with it at CD quality?
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Old 05-25-2014, 06:24 AM
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Default Re: And I Will Kiss - 24bit (96khz or 192khz) or vinyl release

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What exactly is wrong with it at CD quality?
CD quality is limited to 16bit 44.1khz which is substantially inferior to high definition audio (e.g. 24bit 96khz or above). It's all in the detail - 24bit allows much more information to reach your ear that your brain can process and enjoy.

Compare music with video and car analogies:

Music:
Low: mp3
Medium: 16bit 44.1khz (CD)
High: wav or flac 24bit 96khz or above / SACD / Pure Audio Blu-Ray / etc

Video:
Low: VHS
Medium: DVD
High: Blu Ray

Cars:
Low: Hyundai/Kia/Daewoo
Medium: Audi/BMW/Mercedes
High: Bugatti/Ferrari/Rolls Royce

There are actually many HD formats. Check out the following site that shows a list including formats available in 5.1ch:

https://shop.klicktrack.com/2l/35847/?


How good would this track be in 5.1?

Maybe Underworld should also update the Everything Everything DVD to Blu-Ray and offer this track as a bonus programmed in 5.1... might have to start a poll on this too!

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Old 05-25-2014, 10:30 AM
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As much as I love EE, the quality of the sources (check the fuji '99 show) I don't think would lend themselves to a higher definition. I suspect it'd actually serve to bring out the sound quality shortcomings as opposed to make it better.

Either way, they definitely won't do it, even if there weren't technical challenges.

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Old 05-25-2014, 05:41 PM
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the quality of the sources
Agree - probably shot on basic gear (VHS / MiniDV / Betacam).

I assume UW produced music at 24bit 48khz and then bounced it down to 16bit 44.1 for CD but would be good to confirm what quality they worked at - anyone have info on this?

There are several tracks I would love in high res. One is Born Slippy (Nuxx) from the Everything Everything DVD:



Many years ago when working at a hi-fi store I would demo this track on 5.1 surround sound using the best screen, amp and speakers possible - the sound was insanely good. In high resolution it would be incredible!

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Old 05-25-2014, 06:05 PM
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I remember reading a thread on an audiophile/hi-fi forum discussing the most important part in the audio chain: DAC/amp/speakers/cables, etc. and the best response was that the mics and recording gear is the most important followed by speakers and on down from there. The sources for EE are all 15 years old now and there's only so much remastering and higher resolutions can do for this sort of stuff.

I guess if we're going down the 'what if' path of them putting stuff into higher resolution, then my thought is that they'll be very choice about the things they choose to give that treatment and EE wouldn't be my first choice. If I had to choose and were limited in my choices I'd like to see the two olympics tracks get hi-res treatment first and foremost, then OwB and LHN after that, if at all.

What I'd MOST like to see would be a new EE, but that'd require the material and the desire from the band. 2010 would have been a good year for it if for no other reason than mixing and track selection would have been easy... *grumbles something about unfindable japanese concert videos*
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