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Old 07-09-2020, 01:53 PM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
I've listened to this thing many times over the years and I found the fidelity upgrade really profound. Might just be my ears, of course. But I was really delighted.
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:32 PM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
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I've listened to this thing many times over the years and I found the fidelity upgrade really profound. Might just be my ears, of course. But I was really delighted.
Yup, definitely sounds better. You'd be surprised of the big difference between 128kbps to 256kbps. The lower the kbps the more crushed and claustrophobic it sounds. The rip we had cut off around 16khz, this one goes to 21khz. It makes a difference.

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Old 07-09-2020, 05:17 PM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
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Yup, definitely sounds better. You'd be surprised of the big difference between 128kbps to 256kbps. The lower the kbps the more crushed and claustrophobic it sounds. The rip we had cut off around 16khz, this one goes to 21khz. It makes a difference.
Ok, audiophiles. I know it's better, it sounds nice. It did 4 years back, too. That's all. It's an upgrade, appreciated, but let's not go insane.
And this is old news, but 128 to 256 mbs is not that discernible an improvement:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-256-kbps.html
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:24 PM
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Ok, audiophiles. I know it's better, it sounds nice. It did 4 years back, too. That's all. It's an upgrade, appreciated, but let's not go insane.
And this is old news, but 128 to 256 mbs is not that discernible an improvement:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-256-kbps.html
My bad, meant to say 256AAC. Technically, this is an M4A file and Soundcloud Go is 256AAC, which is the equivalent to a 320kbps. Before, ripping from Soundcloud online, you'd get a 128kbps file. This is why we're getting 21-22khz now if you have a Go account.

"256 AAC is equivalent, if not slightly better than 320 MP3. The high-frequency encoding is more efficient (more faithful to the original audio)."

Hence the audible difference. So, yes, those who want this in the best possible quality, there is reason to be excited. Is it ok for us to be happy?

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Old 07-09-2020, 06:22 PM
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Ok, audiophiles. I know it's better, it sounds nice. It did 4 years back, too. That's all. It's an upgrade, appreciated, but let's not go insane]
Stop policing my amazing hearing!
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:20 PM
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Old 07-10-2020, 02:45 PM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
I wish you total happiness in all your UW listening experiences and am sorry I ever doubted your discerning ears! 😜

And yes, it is a fantastic mix, regardless of the bitrate. I grew up appreciating whatever I got, especially for free.
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Old 07-12-2020, 11:41 AM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
Personally i'm used to the 128, but of course higher can sound better.
I've never been an audiophile. So even uncompressed 192/48 bluray
audio is better, but I don't have the equipment for it.

I used to listen to things on headphones a lot more in the 90's, and 00's.
But in the 10's, and 20's, i usually just listen on the computer, or in the car.

So, all this audio improvement isnt really that noticeable. And I don't have that
great of an audio system in my car (or previous one). I had a ghetto USB
speaker system that I used to hook up to my phone for playback.

Currently I am using car speakers, hooked up to a USB (Cassette player shaped) MP3
player (that uses microSD cards - how retro is that).

I got tired of choosing playlists through my phone, so I custom select tracks for the
microSD card, and switch them like albums or short playlists on the USB player.


convoluted, i know. but it works for me.

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Old 07-12-2020, 03:05 PM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
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Personally i'm used to the 128, but of course higher can sound better.
I've never been an audiophile. So even uncompressed 192/48 bluray
audio is better, but I don't have the equipment for it.

I used to listen to things on headphones a lot more in the 90's, and 00's.
But in the 10's, and 20's, i usually just listen on the computer, or in the car.

So, all this audio improvement isnt really that noticeable. And I don't have that
great of an audio system in my car (or previous one). I had a ghetto USB
speaker system that I used to hook up to my phone for playback.

Currently I am using car speakers, hooked up to a USB (Cassette player shaped) MP3
player (that uses microSD cards - how retro is that).

I got tired of choosing playlists through my phone, so I custom select tracks for the
microSD card, and switch them like albums or short playlists on the USB player.


convoluted, i know. but it works for me.

later
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 with a 256gb SD card and Poweramp Pro loaded. Poweramp is a great music player, which can handle and output 24 bit audio if your phone has the capability for 24 bit playback like the Note 4. Since my car stereo ain't that amazing, but it does have a stereo 1/8" in, I load the SD card AND phone data with 320kbps MP3s. Most of them are 44khz and some are 48khz if they were converted from 24 bit files with 48+khz. This allows me to have a shit ton of music on me at all times while I am out. I do plan on picking up a bigger SD card.

As for headphones, I have Audio Technica ATH-M50Xs.

For home stereo listening, I use my studio computer with a Roland MX-1 24/96 audio interface/mixer into Tannoy Reveal 802 studio monitors, which sound lovely.
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Old 07-13-2020, 06:06 AM
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
I've done listening tests and I can't tell the difference between 256kbps mp3 and FLAC, so going a step further into 24/48 and such would be a total waste of time and money for me. I'm much more interested in the tunes than the sound quality over a certain point anyway.
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