back to life, back to underworld

[Dace Doughnut]

...ahem.

just downloaded the japan live gigs. having been a big underworld fan in
the past i've skimmed through the gigs, i'm a bit underwhelmed by the
new material. don't get me wrong, the older stuff sounds fantastic but the
new stuff is a bit too wibbly, akin to the fillers on the stiti/bf singles...

can anyone point out what should be given a second (third/fouth/fifth)
chance in terms of the new stuff. and why i should bother...?

Dave (not dace, big stubby fingers and wee keyboards)...

[hypeless]

eh? japan sets available for download now?

[Dace Doughnut]

Originally Posted by hypeless

eh? japan sets available for download now?

er, 25/26 november 2005? read about them here (or similar list) and found
ftp site hosting them without too much trouble.

back to the question. worth persisting with the new stuff?

discuss...

[potatobroth]

well the RiverRun Project seems to be hit or miss with people on here. but there are definitely a few gems in there.

ive really grown to love JAL to Tokyo, and Back in the Fears (live) and have always had a soft spot for Luetin, Two Months Off and Twist (live especially)

[Dace Doughnut]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

well the RiverRun Project seems to be hit or miss with people on here. but there are definitely a few gems in there.

ive really grown to love JAL to Tokyo, and Back in the Fears (live) and have always had a soft spot for Luetin, Two Months Off and Twist (live especially)

continuing listening to this at the mo, the version of king of snake is
pretty good too. not as good as the pre-album version from, er,
glastonbury 1998 but pretty dammed good nevertheless.

think i'll maybe just chop the gig down to an 80mind cd...

(btw, anybody know how i can change my name from 'dace' to 'dave'?
anyway, doughnuts...)

[BeautifulBurnout]

I think Dace Doughnut sounds better than Dave!

As regards the new stuff, I think it is important to hear it how the band have chosen to present it by listening to (and, dare I say it, buying ) the EPs rather than just going by the snippets in the live gigs. This would give you a better sense of what they are doing now.

Do bear in mind also that they have something like 180 new pieces of music, the sum total of which I sincerely hope we get to hear.

BTW - it's Wherever I Lay My Hat.

[King of Snake]

well there have been quite a few new tracks in the liveshow and i don't really know all the names. Back in the Fears is just wonderful, and there are a few cool techno-ish "tracks" that seem to be popping up, like Morococcan Meatballs (worst title ever? ), Aqua Funk...
Yard Beat is cool because it just has this wicked breakbeat and probably the deepest sub-bassline ever. Then there's that breakbeat track that they've played a few times mixing into Jumbo that sounds very cool, and of course You Do Sribble is pretty big.


As for the Riverrrun project, i don't really care much for Lovely Broken Thing but Pizza for Eggs has some really cool stuff on it. Definitely looking forward to the new one.

[Cadevil]

Originally Posted by Dace Doughnut

...akin to the fillers on the stiti/bf singles...

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Fillers...hmmm...Most of the tracks on the BF singles were non-UW remixes and most of the STITI b-sides were released on the Pearl's Girl EP, which I think is pretty highly regarded around these parts.

I agree with others...seems hard to judge the new stuff from the live performances...There are some definite gems on each of the RR releases.

[big screen satellite]

Personally, i'd suggest waiting for the full vinyl (and / or cd) releases of the best tracks off the River Run Project, most of the tracks that make up P4E & LBT are much longer in their full edits, Play Pig, Peggy Sussed and JAL to Tokyo are really great as longer pieces (you get the full feel of the tracks, rather than snippets mixed together with slower stuff) and these full versions come with some great remixes, although i've not heard the Peggy Sussed mixes by Pete Heller yet, i know they will rock...

as one long section i think Pizza and Lovely can be a bit drawn out, but as individual tracks they have their moments and this i why i'd say hold out until the best ones are released in their entirity...which is gonna happen

i've bought the downloads, obvioulsy because i'm a bit of a fan ( ) but if thats not you're bag then hold out and catch the vinyl (or cd single) releases - they will restore your faith that these are not mere fillers....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

as one long section i think Pizza and Lovely can be a bit drawn out, but as individual tracks they have their moments and this i why i'd say hold out until the best ones are released in their entirity...which is gonna happen

Are you kidding? I really like PFE as a long mix of the tracks, because the tracks have in some kind of way, a similar vibe.