Holy fucked up healthcare reform Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the mongoose]

Link to the Hasting Center mentioned in the video above:>>>CLICK<<<

Michigan is the place where a fucked up not for profit company called EXIT international has begun it's US operations this summer. There is also a Swiss company called Dignitas that does similar work:
article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXIT_%28Australia%29

EXIT International, is a pro-euthanasia group founded by Dr Philip Nitschke. It was previously known as the Voluntary Euthanasia Research Foundation (VERF Inc.). Other assisted dying organisations are Dignitas and Final EXIT.

Exit International is a Voluntary Euthanasia and end-of-life choices information and advocacy organisation.Exit International was founded by Dr Philip Nitschke in 1997 after the over-turning of the world's first Voluntary Euthanasia law - the Rights of the Terminally Ill (ROTI) Act. During the ROTI Act, Dr Nitschke became the first physician in the world to administer a legal, lethal, voluntary injection.




Love how the otherwise healthy old lady that has decided to die early is concerned about the death vapor bag messing up her fucking hair......lol.

Who could be funding Exit? Well......who else is incorporated in Michigan? The Ford Foundation! >>>CLICK<<<


Add that to the fact that Sam Walton was in a secret society at his universary, was a prison camp supervising captain in the military, and then even later lead a Rotery Club. The "Ol' Roy"-tery (Sam's)Club.

Fucking just look at the other companies that Wal-Mart board of directors are a part of.....>>>CLICK<<<

How is Ford, Wal-Mart, and other private companies legally able to influence and finance such social (ist) matters???????


Answer ------>The Center for Environmental Leadership In Business >>>CLICK<<<



They have implemented a rule that all participating countries in Conservation International's jurisdiction must agree to..... >>>Water Privatization<<<

>>>>>>See how World Bank plays into water privatization<<< ....>>>and other areas of your life<<<....or just, >>>read it all!<<<


From the wiki link above:
“Industry analysts predict that private water will soon be a capitalized market as precious, and as war-provoking, as oil”. Goldman continues to argue “These days, an indebted country cannot borrow capital from the World Bank or IMF without a domestic water privatization policy as a precondition”. The Bank is utilizing “the 'Washington Consensus' model of development to promote water privatization. Following this model, the World Bank is forcing many countries to commodify their water resources, rather than using their expertise in the public sector to acknowledge water as a universal human right and an essential public service”. The push for water privatization development plays upon “the shocking tragedy that much of the world lacks access to affordable and clean water”. This image creates “new opportunities in development though it may have little to do with ultimately quenching” the needs of impoverished countries. “The problem of water scarcity for the world’s poor has been analyzed by the World Bank as one in which the public sector has failed to deliver and has therefore prevented development from “taking off” and the economy from modernizing. If the state cannot deliver something as basic as water and sanitation, the argument goes, it is a strong indication of a general failure of public-sector capacity”. However, “with the sale or lease of a public good comes more than simply a privatized service; alongside it comes a wide set of postcolonial institutional forces that intervenes in state-citizen relations and North-South dynamics”.

Lucky that World Bank controls just about everything else if "we cannot deliver something as basic as water", so if someone were to let the water get poisoned around here "it would show a general failure of public-sector capacity" which would affect damn near everthing. World Bank has control in the following areas:
* Agriculture and Rural Development
* Conflict and Development
* Development Operations and Activities
* Economic Policy
* Education
* Energy
* Environment
* Financial Sector
* Gender
* Governance
* Health, Nutrition and Population
* Industry
* Information and Communication Technologies
* Information, Computing and Telecommunications
* International Economics and Trade
* Labor and Social Protections
* Law and Justice
* Macroeconomic and Economic Growth
* Mining
* Poverty Reduction
* Poverty
* Private Sector
* Public Sector Governance
* Rural Development
* Social Development
* Social Protection
* Trade
* Transport
* Urban Development
* Water Resources
* Water Supply and Sanitation

Notice how on a Florida Water site it clearly states that they are not in contol of making sure you have water or that it is safe: >>>CLICK<<<
While the SFWMD is responsible for permits that determine how much water city, county utilities and other large users are allowed to withdraw from our shared underground water reserves, it is not responsible for delivering, or treating the water you use in your home or business. If you have questions about your water bill, or about water pressure or water quality, you should contact your city or county. The same is true for sewage treatment questions. Both these activities are overseen by the state's Department of Environmental Protection (DEP).


Still think we should pass a 1000 page legistation with Ford, Wal-Mart, and the World Bank at the helm which also effectively gives medical access to illegal immigrants?!?!??
Article:
During a town hall meeting Tuesday on health care reform, Senator Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) stated his opposition to legislation that would cover illegal aliens. Specter has been a long-time champion of amnesty for illegal aliens, he was the author of the 2006 amnesty bill (S. 2611) that was widely rejected by the American people. Specter's opposition to including illegal aliens under the proposed reforms is a clear indication of how strongly the public opposes the idea.

Facing constituents in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, yesterday, Specter said he "wouldn't support a bill that extends coverage to illegal immigrants." However, Specter went on to state erroneously that "none of the bills in Congress would provide health insurance to illegal immigrants."

A detailed analysis by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) of the America's Affordable Health Care Act of 2009, H.R. 3200, reveals that illegal aliens would be eligible for government provided insurance, and could easily obtain government "affordability credits" to buy private insurance. An amendment that would have effectively prevented illegal aliens from receiving these benefits was blocked by Democrats on the House Ways & Means Committee. FAIR's analysis of the provisions of H.R. 3200 that pertain to illegal aliens can be found at www.fairus.org.

"FAIR commends Sen. Specter for opposing this costly benefit for illegal aliens," said Dan Stein, president of FAIR. "Illegal aliens and their dependent children account for as much as one-third of the medically uninsured in the U.S. Including them under the plan is unwarranted and would add billions to the price tag. We hope that the senator will use his influence in Congress to ensure that deliberate omissions and loopholes, like those in the House bill, that allow illegal aliens to benefit from taxpayer funded health care, will be corrected in the Senate."

The concerns raised by constituents at the Lebanon town hall meeting reflect the growing costs of illegal immigration both nationally and in Pennsylvania. According to a new report by FAIR, The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Pennsylvanians, state taxpayers spend nearly $49 million annually to provide health care to illegal aliens.

"In Pennsylvania and all across the nation, the public is understandably upset about the staggering costs of illegal immigration and adamantly oppose providing a full range of health benefits to illegal aliens," said Stein. "We hope that others in Congress join Sen. Specter in opposing any provisions that would require American taxpayers to provide the full spectrum of health benefits to illegal aliens."

[bas_I_am]

Dude . . do you wear a tin foil hat?

How does one go from voluntary dignified euthanasia to forced and mandated eugenical termination???

Oh I know - LaRouche >>>CLICK<<<

[chuck]

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

Or should I just stay watching the Daily Show?

[Troy McClure]

The 'death panels' is a crock of shit started by Death Panel for Cutie herself Sarah Palin, New Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Senator Grassley and a handful of Congressman. I've been watching Rachel Maddow's show exposing the lobbying groups funding protests. It's the same groups that backed the Tea Parties. Someone last week left their gun at a Congresswoman's townhall meeting in southeastern Arizona.

Jason

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by chuck

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

It's SOCIALISM, Chuck. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M has come to 'merica.

Barack Hussein Obama is going to turn the country into the United States of Russia.

Or worse, the UK.

Oh, and BO is not a real 'merican either. He's a dirty forrrner. He don't even got a birth certificate or shit like that to prove who he says he is. (But you can tell - y'know - just by LOOKING at him)

On a serious note, it's quite scary how, since Obama came to power, the (outside perception of the) whole of the US seems to have turned into Fox-watching, NRA gun-toting, barely literate wingnuts. Where are all the calm rational voices on our screens? Sanity not Hannity please (hey it's monday morning)

mongoose - sorry, no time to digest all that or do it justice - hence this time-contrained, jR-style free association post.

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

Originally Posted by chuck

Can someone explain the chaos that Obama announcing a health care policy has caused?

I hear talk of "death panels" "communism" and town hall meetings that are erupting in chaos. But I'm not sure what it's all about.

Is there somewhere that's not rabidly Fox - that can explain what everyone's so up in arms about?

Or should I just stay watching the Daily Show?

I've been waiting for this thread to start. Just sitting back for now to see were it goes. To be honest, I'm a bit(no,VERY MUCH) disgusted with all the attention it's getting. We still have boys dying over seas in a war started and so heavily approved by the same people screaming at these town hall meetings.

Originally Posted by Deckard

- hence this time-contrained, jR-style free association post.

What exactly do you mean by free association? PM me(like call me ) Just kidding.


Also, is it not just such a pretty colored website? Gives me the munchies for Easter candy: http://www.exitinternational.net/

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by the mongoose

Michigan is the place where a fucked up not for profit company called EXIT international has begun it's US operations this summer. There is also a Swiss company called Dignitas that does similar work

Why is it "fucked up" exactly?

Is it euthanasia in general that you think is fucked up, or just the background to this company that's making you suspicious?

Originally Posted by jR

Gives me the munchies for Easter candy: http://www.exitinternational.net/

Now that is fucked up.

[//\/\/]

Originally Posted by Deckard

On a serious note, it's quite scary how, since Obama came to power, the (outside perception of the) whole of the US seems to have turned into Fox-watching, NRA gun-toting, barely literate wingnuts.

...actually, this was happening waaaay before obama won! obama's election has actually improved things!

[Deckard]

Well I was hoping it would, but ever since he became president there seems to be a never-ending stream of these loonies queueing up to appear on camera to tarnish the country's reputation. Maybe in some strange way it's a good thing, like a disease making itself most known when faced with treatment? (It's ok, the arrogance of my analogy hasn't escaped me)

Anyway... healthcare....

[Strangelet]

Mongoose, when it comes to Larouche, how can you take someone seriously who compares Obama to Hitler?

Between you and me, don't you think you need to, I don't know, conquer three quarters of a continent and attempt to exterminate an entire minority off the face of the earth before that comparison would be warrented?

just throwing that out there...