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Old 01-06-2011, 09:31 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
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The change in Eight Ball (breakdown) at its earliest stage made 15 years before Eight ball:

Unknown - track 06
Eh? Where is that one from?

As long as we're talking about old mk1/Freur stuff; there used to be a bootleg that contained what I guess was an original version of "Mother Earth". It has some really cool vocal effects and a real fast beat. If it were cleaned up I'd like it more than the original. Does anyone remember where that came from??
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:20 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
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Eh? Where is that one from?
its on the freur demo (?)

Yeah the 4min. mk1 Mother Earth demo rocks, such a different vibe.... also the live 1991 mk1 version in hamburg is great too!
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:15 PM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
...wait - what "Freur demo"?

I only know of these two "Demo Things" (not including the Dubno pre-release Dat):

"1990 Demo"
"Demo Tape"

"1990 Demo" has: Change the Weather / Faded Love / Gypsy Hairdo / Promised Land (Full Lenght)*/
Promised Land (Full Length) / Sex Lies (Rock) / Sex Lies / Winter Moon / Yours Faithfully

"Demo Tape" : Faith Healer / Mother Earth / Spirit of the World / Sex Lies / Feel Me** / Isolation


*yes, spelled incorrectly, then again spelled the right way...
** it's a slightly different version than the one from the "Dubno Dat Tape Pre-Release Version"
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:09 PM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
8 Ball fifteen years before 8 Ball? Mother Earth demo? GIMME GIMME PLEASE PLEASE
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:15 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
i've searched all my freur articles and notes (here) - there is no info...not even in freur news

its certainly not been played live (as far as records go)

i'll try and dig out any other infor i have, which i have yet to upload to flickr...

it does certainly sound too modern and ambient to be freur...
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:18 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
so is that the final word? It's not real?
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:31 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
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it does certainly sound too modern and ambient to be freur...
really?

To me - it sounds like it totally have been completed in the 80's

Although, I'd believe it if it turned out to not 'technically' be by Freur, but a UW production

but I mean, it's just that basic keyboard loop, with the "time operator" recording
then some added synth at like 2 min

and it doesn't sound too far removed from "Kiss Me" (another Freur track)
like that same doo-doo daa-daa repetition; or even "This The Way I'd Like to Live My Life"

what would be interesting to know - is who was the guy who originally shared the file? I definitely got it from a now-defunct RTSR ftp from somewhere betwen 2001-2003. At least 2003 is the "date created" info on the file, and my earliest files within that folder are from 2001.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:16 AM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
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so is that the final word? It's not real?
god no, i'm no expert - just seems too long and experimental to be a Freur track IMO

most Freur is generally throwaway pop / rock - remember Freur were at their peak 1983-1985 - does this really sound like a mid eighties track?

(i know Rick was ahead of his time, but unless he confirms when it was released - i reserve judgement)

eitherway its a great track....
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:16 PM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
Thanks for looking it up BSS. I agree with you and am kind of torn on this. I have some obscure Freur demo recordings, there are some experimental things there, but nothing that would suggest that they'd ever do a 10 minute ambient track with no vocals, especially one that seems to be recorded this well. It's certainly believable as an early mk2 track. The bass part sounds a bit like the breakdown in TMO actually. That's what really makes this bizarre for me. It definitely sounds like something Rick would do, like on the BWS album that just came out.

This site credits it to "Fleur" and says it came out in 2000:
http://www.mp3sale.ru/track.php?ms_trackid=520278

I guess only the guy who uploaded it knows for sure...(among us at least)


By the way BSS...Freur is not throwaway music!! Those two albums are great and I listen to them more than a few of UW's albums.
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: Freur - Alabaster White Thing
Yeah, i saw that Russian listing too. Then i promptly googled Fleur. NO hits. who knows. Though I agree- it sounds a bit Rickish.
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