So what's going to happen with the "other" tracks?

[change]

Seems like most of the singles released over the last couple albums have been filled with remixes. Those are fun and all, but i know we all miss the EP's with quality unreleased original material. We know the songs are out there but perhaps just not mature enough for UW to be ready to release them.

Not that it's my business but I don't really agree with not realeasing something because it sounds too much like another track. If it was written in a different context than a previous track the originality was probably spoiled more by someone making a comment that it's "too much" like a previous track. That version of Sola Sistim was a cool track and would have fit in as a b-side just as well as any of the remixes that were released instead. Who knows, there could be another amazing piece like Cherry Pie, Rez, or Dark Train out there just waiting to be released. After all, those were all alternate versions of previously released tracks.

Jazzy Jumbo, i'm also thinking of you.

[Cadevil]

Originally Posted by change

Seems like most of the singles released over the last couple albums have been filled with remixes. Those are fun and all, but i know we all miss the EP's with quality unreleased original material. We know the songs are out there but perhaps just not mature enough for UW to be ready to release them.

Not that it's my business but I don't really agree with not realeasing something because it sounds too much like another track. If it was written in a different context than a previous track the originality was probably spoiled more by someone making a comment that it's "too much" like a previous track. That version of Sola Sistim was a cool track and would have fit in as a b-side just as well as any of the remixes that were released instead. Who knows, there could be another amazing piece like Cherry Pie, Rez, or Dark Train out there just waiting to be released. After all, those were all alternate versions of previously released tracks.

Jazzy Jumbo, i'm also thinking of you.

Have to agree...seems that there are plenty of b-sides/versions out there for UW to release a Pearl's Girl EP-type thing...

They did release the JAL to Tokyo EP for the Japanese Market...but no "new" material included...

I'd bet we're likely to see another Riverrun before an EP...which would be fine with me.

[holden]

In the recent MTV interview, it says "You Do Scribble" and the speech version of "To Heal (and Restore) " will be given proper release, perhaps on UWLive. Also says another RiverRun is likely.

Funny, i'm just listening to an older dirtyradio show, with "biro the leggy", which Karl explains as "something Rick found in the archives from the Hundred Days Off album era". That made it out, eventually! They also played an early version of "Pegg Sussed". So, i guess patience is the rule. If it sounds good and they keep bringing out working versions(a la Phonestrap, Silver Boots/ALAF), chances are they'll be released. i hope!

[Cadevil]

Originally Posted by holden

Funny, i'm just listening to an older dirtyradio show, with "biro the leggy", which Karl explains as "something Rick found in the archives from the Hundred Days Off album era".

Yeah...Apparently the beginning bit of MoMove was originally attached to Biro...

[joethelion]

Originally Posted by Cadevil

Yeah...Apparently the beginning bit of MoMove was originally attached to Biro...

someone correct me if I'm wrong...
but

actually - "Biro the Leggy" is basically the 'demo version' of "Mo Move". Also, if you listen closely, some of the percussion is used in both tracks

[and ... although I haven't had a chance to listen to all three in a row & carefully listen - there might even be those same elements in "Beautiful Burnout"]

so basically it goes:
• 'Trousers' (live track f/ Electraglide 2000) - you can clearly hear bits of "Mo Move" @ the 5:35 mark
• then it's either "Biro the Leggy" or the next version is that snippet of audio that was on the UWlive video of Karl in the studio (I don't think Rick was in it) (it has those "Mo Move" bleeps)
• then you get "Mo Move"
• "Biro the Leggy" is "rediscovered" and is eventually played out live
• Beautiful Burnout

btw - It's been really REALLY bugging me, ok - at the Hollywood Bowl show, during "Mo Move" at 3:26 you hear this "woom woom... waaam waam... wooom wooom... waaam waaam" sort of keyboard sound. I know I've heard that bit before. I actually even recognized it at the show... but for the life of me, I can't figure out where it's from!!!!!

is it from an early UW remix of another band?

[Cadevil]

Was digging through some of my old UW stuff on my external hard drive and found a few more tracks that were not released via riverrun or OwB...a track called TT?

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by Cadevil

Was digging through some of my old UW stuff on my external hard drive and found a few more tracks that were not released via riverrun or OwB...a track called TT?

Ahhhhhhhh! TT! Superb ambient, almost world-music-like track, that. Awesome lyrics too - very haunting. I first heard that in the second Lemonworld radio broadcast, which must have been around April 05-ish?

[CaliWeed]

Originally Posted by the real stuff

it'd be nice to have You Do Scribble on a CD, but I think it's also cool that it's unique to the 2005 shows. shame I didn't get to see any of those, though

Didn't UW perform You do scribble last thursday (London part 2, 18th of october 2007)?

It is listed in the tracklistings posted here on the forum (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...ead.php?t=6875). And on the thread about the gig, a link was posted to a recording of it, named You do scribble by the one who posted it (here: http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...?t=6857&page=8)

As you may notice, I didn't knew You do scribble before thursday.

[Cadevil]

Originally Posted by Cadevil

Was digging through some of my old UW stuff on my external hard drive and found a few more tracks that were not released via riverrun or OwB...a track called TT?

Also 020202? Did this become something else?

[Cadevil]

Originally Posted by Cadevil

Also 020202? Did this become something else?

Nevermind...this is obviously the original mix of Sola Sistim that they scrapped because it "sounded too much like Moaner"