Burntout?

[negative1]

i think every album they have, has
one stand out track, and this is it for this album..
(the first 2 albums had a few tracks that really stand out)..

however, i think that out of all them,
this is probably the weakest....for some reason,
even though its great live, the album version seems
cut off...the full unedited version is better, but is
still not near the caliber of their earlier tunes...(and
even not up to the 'riverun' standards)...

don't know why, it has most of the trademark underworld
sounds.....i don't think the remixes do it justice, and even
underworlds own video mix, and what dog mix are still a
step down from the usual..

i know it placed high in the poll, but i think its just because
it's fresh right now....if it stands the test of time, yeah then
it might be considered 'up there'...

later
-1

[kagenaki koe]

tried buying these from beatport.com but it's territory restricted

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by negative1

i think every album they have, has
one stand out track, and this is it for this album..
(the first 2 albums had a few tracks that really stand out)..

however, i think that out of all them,
this is probably the weakest....for some reason,
even though its great live, the album version seems
cut off...the full unedited version is better, but is
still not near the caliber of their earlier tunes...(and
even not up to the 'riverun' standards)...

don't know why, it has most of the trademark underworld
sounds.....i don't think the remixes do it justice, and even
underworlds own video mix, and what dog mix are still a
step down from the usual..

i know it placed high in the poll, but i think its just because
it's fresh right now....if it stands the test of time, yeah then
it might be considered 'up there'...

later
-1

I disagree. I think BB can stand it's own amongst uw's best tracks. I also think OWB has a few more standout tracks: Crocodile and Mamgu.

[holden]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

I disagree. I think BB can stand it's own amongst uw's best tracks. I also think OWB has a few more standout tracks: Crocodile and Mamgu.

R&K have said that "Biro/Burnout" was one of the songs that took the longest to complete in their career. We know it's been kicking around since at least 2002. That said, i agree with K0S, that BB is one of their epic tracks. In fact, if it was placed first on the LP and a lil longer, well, i won't say it's on par with Juanita, but it's dang impressive.

OWB has its share of short, what the heck are they doing moments, some successful like "To Heal", others a bit superfluous "Good Morning Cockerel" and "Cuddle Bunny vs the Celtic Villages" could be dropped without me missing them). But still a lot of really strong material. "Faxed Invitation" is just so smooth, and "Glam Bucket" gives me shivvers.

Negative1, i do see your point on the UW remixes. The What Dog and video edit for BB give it a bt more punch but stay true to the original, which is not what the boys used to do for their own remixes (Pearls Girl, Cowgirl, and especially Dark & Long remixes were so much like separate new tracks). So maybe we were a bit spoiled by their past, and they haven't really done remixes for a while. Hopefully more planned for the future?
Short story...since Lovely Broken Thing in 05, i think the band has been loosening up and trying great new things. Not everything will appeal to those raised on STITI or Dubno, but it's still the music i'd prefer to listen to over most everything else!

[sunflowereye]

Originally Posted by holden

since Lovely Broken Thing in 05, i think the band has been loosening up and trying great new things. Not everything will appeal to those raised on STITI or Dubno, but it's still the music i'd prefer to listen to over most everything else!

Well said. I love OWB w/ "Faxed Invitation" & "Beuatiful Burnout" my favs. Haven't listened to many of the remixes for the new material, but am glad to hear the band is remixing their new material. Can't wait to BB again in ATL!

[mondokat]

I think BB builds nicely, but doesnt have a punch and fall off. It's like it doesn't seem to know where it's going. I think Boy, Boy, Boy has the same problem but not as bad. It's not that these are bad songs, but they definitely seem to lack the structure of a song like Croc or Holding the Moth. I think all of their albums have songs like this. My solution is to never listen to just one song. If the ending doesn't seem like an ending, another song can end for it.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by mondokat

I think Boy, Boy, Boy has the same problem but not as bad.

boy3 is as far from "not as bad" as anything as it can get. in fact i would say that any other track ever released by this musical act, no matter how flawed, is "not as bad" as boy3.

[mmm skyscraper]

Originally Posted by holden

R&K have said that "Biro/Burnout" was one of the songs that took the longest to complete in their career. We know it's been kicking around since at least 2002.

It was played at Electraglide in 2000. No lyrics, but the music is the same.

[undarrenworld]

Originally Posted by mmm skyscraper

It was played at Electraglide in 2000. No lyrics, but the music is the same.

Osaka or Tokyo?

[potatobroth]

Tokyo 2000. Thats the same show that had the "Gets much better" version of Confusion the Waitress and the 010101-ish track. Legendary set!