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Old 03-24-2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
And now it comes out that Clinton's recent story about arriving in Bosnia under sniper fire and having to run for cover with her head ducked down is a load of crap. Big shocker.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...tures_par.html

"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
--Hillary Clinton, speech at George Washington University, March 17, 2008.


Far from running to an airport building with their heads down, Clinton and her party were greeted on the tarmac by smiling U.S. and Bosnian officials. An eight-year-old Moslem girl, Emina Bicakcic, read a poem in English. An Associated Press photograph of the greeting ceremony, above, shows a smiling Clinton bending down to receive a kiss.

"There is peace now," Emina told Clinton, according to Pomfret's report in the Washington Post the following day, "because Mr. Clinton signed it. All this peace. I love it."

The First Lady's schedule, released on Wednesday and available here ( http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/FirstLady_Schedule_1996_Mar_25.pdf?mod=WSJBlog ), confirms that she arrived in Tuzla at 8.45 a.m. and was greeted by various dignitaries, including Emina Bicakcic, (whose name has mysteriously been redacted from the document.)

You can see CBS News footage of the arrival ceremony here ( ). The footage shows Clinton walking calmly out of the back of the C-17 military transport plane that brought her from Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany.

I highly recommend watching the video link.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
She admits she "misspoke".

Best. Euphemism. Ever.
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:15 AM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
Misspoke? Misspoke my ass. That's the trouble with lying, you have to tell another one to explain the first.

Obviously been getting lessons from Bill.
And George.
And Tony.
And......
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:06 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
Will she ever stop? Now Hillary is starting to focus on arguing that PLEDGED delegates have no responsibility to vote according to how the people in their districts voted. Here are a few recent quotes from Hillary herself on it:

“We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment.”

The remarks echoed her Monday comments to the editorial board of the Philadelphia Daily News. "And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged,” she said Monday. “You know there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They're just like superdelegates."


Legally of course, this is true. But it's an interesting stance to take when you consider that she was just in Michigan voicing her supposedly deep concern for the voter disenfranchisement that would result from not having a revote there. Wouldn't pledged delegates voting counter to who the people in their districts supported be disenfranchising voters across the country? Every day, I find myself more and more baffled at how anybody can justify supporting this woman's bid for the White House when her deceitful tactics are so glaringly transparent.

Does anyone here support her? I'd really love to have an honest, open discussion about why someone might still be wanting to see Hillary as President.



EDIT - and here's an interview with the pilot of the controversial flight Hillary flew into Bosnia on. He says they didn't use any evasive maneuvers during their landing, and that no one has ever been asked to sit on their flak jackets (all as Hillary still claims happened) on one of his flights. I wonder if this issue will draw more scrutiny to her other exaggerated claims of foreign policy "experience", like her debunked claims about Northern Ireland, Kosovo, etc. It's certainly more pertinent to the nomination race than concerns over the fact that Obama is friends with a guy who's said some controversial things that Obama doesn't even agree with.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
So.....did Bill misspeak about not having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky???

OH, SNAP!
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:09 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
Lovely analysis of the word "misspeak" here on the Beeb.

And on the same wavelength as Gambit, it says:
Quote:
"She's in danger of doing what Bill Clinton did in redefining sexual relations.
"She's redefining telling the truth because 'misspeaking' is a euphemism for not telling the truth. It's the language of bamboozling, which US politicians and the US military love and get away with."
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I was completely floored with this.

Just because Bush got away with it, really Hillary.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:30 PM
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I'm pretty speechless on the brand new story out of Hillary's camp tonight:

http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...rpc=22&sp=true

A group of deep-pocket Clinton donors has written a threatening letter to Nancy Pelosi "urging" her to retract her previous statements that if the superdelegates overturn the will of the voters, she believes it will damage the Democratic party.

The paragraph from the article that really struck me was this one:

The signees reminded the House leader from California of their support for the party's House campaign committee and said "therefore" she should "reflect in your comments a more open view" about superdelegates.

I'm not much of a fan of Pelosi's overall, but I admire that she's sticking to her guns on this despite what I consider to be highly inappropriate threats from a group of rich people.
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Old 03-26-2008, 11:41 PM
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I don't want to have to choose between her and McCain.....
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:56 PM
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html

A good article from a week ago that points out that Hillary has virtually no chance of winning. I think the Clinton campaign realizes this and are trying everything they can to get her the nomination. I find it interesting that Hillary is arguing that pledged delegates aren't so iron-clad and important anymore when she was pushing so hard to get Florida and Michigan's pledged delegates into her column. Interesting may not be the right word. Hypocritical, I think is better or macchavelian.
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