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Old 12-18-2008, 10:25 AM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
i don't disagree that the US's actions absolutely fit the definition of terrorism. personally i would love it if the hague would issue a warrant for bush and cheney after they're out of office. it would never fly, but i think it would be a valid statement.

still, disagree with your analogy.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:08 PM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
Say what you will about Bush - I still think this was ridiculous and immature. At the same time I kind of wish he got hit - "Bush gets nailed by shoe"...can you imagine it?
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
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Say what you will about Bush - I still think this was ridiculous and immature.
I disagree and disagree.

1. It galvanized protests across the middle east and he effectively became a symbol of dissent.
2. He was beaten by the u.s. authorities while being held. If it was just ridiculous and immature, it wouldn't have meant anything. If it didn't mean anything they wouldn't have beaten him.

And as far as Bush's legacy. I find it decidedly cowardly that he would not go out of his way to pardon this guy. Instead of rambling on about how people want to make a "distraction" and to call "attention" to hiimself (like he's don't tase me bro or chris crocker on about britney spears again), he could have said look, he's angry about the death caused by the hands of our inaccurate intelligence, our mismanagament, and hubris. Maybe I deserve to face their anger, and come to an understanding of it. Maybe that's the least I could fucking do.

But no. they beat an apology out of him.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
It bothers me too that I haven't seen any comment by Bush on the alleged abuse of al-Zaidi. The most I've seen is a statement that Bush has "no hard feelings" against him, but nothing about a stance against the allegations of abuse.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:39 AM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
It doesn't surprise me because in this interview he says that the US has never tortured anyone. Of course I realize that he probably has to say that but if you see how he reacts to the question, it looks like he really believes it and he is not just talking.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:50 PM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
The shoe thrower has been completely black holed for more than a month. New evidence he's been tortured.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_11466032?nclick_check=1

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On Thursday, Dhiyaa al-Saadi, al-Zeidi's lawyer, said he had recently seen medical records that were part of al-Zeidi's court file, which he said added credence to the journalist's claim he had been beaten and tortured after his arrest Dec. 14 by the security detail of the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki.
Al-Saadi said two medical reports conducted by government physicians within a week of al-Zeidi's arrest described bruising that covered the reporter's face and body, but was especially severe on his legs and arms; a missing tooth; a gash on the bridge of his nose; and what appeared to be a burn mark on his ear.
Al-Saadi said he had not been permitted to remove the records from the office of the judge investigating the case, so the existence of the documents could not be verified independently. But the account of al-Zeidi's wounds matches injuries described
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:31 AM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
The real question is is who is doing the torturing? US or Iraq? Or are they both one in the same here?
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:07 AM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
A statue of a big shoe has been erected in iraq to honor "the shoe thrower"

http://www.inquisitr.com/16865/iraqi...-shoe-thrower/
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:07 AM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
This, just in....

A sculpture of a shoe erected in Iraq to honour a journalist who threw his footwear at George W Bush has been dismantled, reports say.

Foreign media say the bronze-coloured fibre-glass shoe was removed from its site in the city of Tikrit on the orders of the local authorities.

"I did take the shoe down immediately and destroyed it, and I did not ask why," Shahah Daham told the German news agency DPA.


RIP "Bush shoe sculpture"

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Old 01-31-2009, 03:15 PM
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Re: Watch out for that shoe, Mr. President!
its like the opening credits to monty python and the search for the holy grail.
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