Ring Road... next single...(?)

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by stimpee

This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

[holden]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

Clearly we're listening to different remixes!
I regularly download 5-10 mixes a week from hybridized.org or Mixdepot.com, and yes, i agree with you that whilemany remixes are quite different from the originals, there are still most often more than "a few samples" or "sprinkles" left intact. Admittedly, most of the mixes i enjoy are progressive, electro or breaks sets, if that makes any difference.
but when i know the original tune, i can recognize it's essence in the remix. So, i don't think i'm being blind to remix culture, because it's not just junking a vocal on a new composition. Take most of the other UW remixes we've had by other artists since Beaucoup Fish, ten years ago till today: Most of them had quite recognizeable parts of the original in addition to the vocal...and still managed to be unique creations of the remixer.

Yes, the days of an extended mix where a lil beat or EQ was tweaked are gone. But i'd like to think that there are clever(er) producers who can work with the original tracks in a new way, rather than what LL and others are apparently doing, taking their own song and pasting a vocal on top. That seems to me a cop-out and a bit of a hanging on the coat-tails of the more famous UW to get your record played or sold. For right or for wrong.

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by holden

That seems to me a cop-out and a bit of a hanging on the coat-tails of the more famous UW to get your record played or sold. For right or for wrong.

Underworld are using Laidback Luke (and other remixers) solid reputation to sell copies, not the other way around. It's UW who are riding the coattails of the remixers. Wighnomy/Pete Heller/Huntemann et.al were chosen because they were/are very popular with dj's. Pete Heller didn't ask to have a remix on the single so he could take some of UW's glory. UW, or their management, asked Heller (and Laidback Luke) because they liked their work and thought it would sell copies. You've got this all backwards. BTW, all of those mixers i mentioned created mixes that had little or nothing to do with the original songs other than the vocal track.

[cacophony]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

Laidback Luke solid reputation

a solid reputation of being a complete nobody to 99% of the populace? not sure i agree with your assessment.

[BrotherLovesDub]

the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board. if you're a DJ and you don't know Laidback Luke, you don't know your history. Laidback Luke was a huge name in techno at the end of the 90s.

saying he's unknown to 99% of the populace is being willfully ignorant of the target audience for this particular remix/release.

[jose m]

he's pretty hot right now in the uk and europe.

[Dirty0900]

Is it er...not coz Karlos/Ricko/Daz like said person and know they may do a semi decent job? Why not ask Simian who were meant to tour with UW, Errors or Thom York seeing UW are meant to be touring with them. They wouldn't ask me

[BrotherLovesDub]

Originally Posted by Dirty0900

Why not ask Thom Yorke...

the absurdity has just peaked.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board. if you're a DJ and you don't know Laidback Luke, you don't know your history. Laidback Luke was a huge name in techno at the end of the 90s.

All this does not make it a good remix. I know of Laidback Luke. I already expressed my opinion. Whatever. Its a bad remix. Thats that. In fact, this is one of the worst official Underworld remixes I've ever heard. Apologies to the Underworld guys and Steve Hall but this is a stinker. I hope it does well in the clubs but it does nothing for the reputation of Underworld and it wont sell any albums.

[negative1]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

the irony here, being that underworld did the exact same thing
to almost all of the remixes they did for other artists in the
mid 90's...

you can barely tell what happened to the original sounds..
from most of the mixes they put out (ie one dove, drum club,
bjork, everything but the girl, eagles prey, etc)..

(by the way, i'm a big fan of most of those though), i can't
really stand the originals for most of them...

later
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