fucking itunes blew away all my music

[stimpee]

I must say that I dont use iTunes for my music library either. I just dont like it. But I know its a different beast on the mac. On the PC its bloated and overbearing, taking over everything media related on your machine (along with Quicktime). Also if you have multiple devices (iphone + ipod) you have to keep a separate library. Getting music OFF your ipod with itunes is also a pain in the ass (not possible with iTunes). Sharing libraries is also not possible I think (as in put the library on the network and have multiple devices read/write to it at the same time). Im sure there are hacks around it but from what Ive read theyre not that good. Windows users should check out Aethyr tho.

Songbird got some investment money from Philips and basically stopped all development on what they were doing to make a custom Philips Songbird (this included stopping Linux builds i think). Now theyre back on track and the amount of devices they support is rapidly increasing. v1.8 is out and its getting better. Still not ready for prime time tho.

Also when I add my NAS to the library it wants to calculate gapless playback for everything. Trying to make it stop just freezes my system. iTunes also takes about 100mb of ram, which is a lot for a music player (Winamp takes about 8-9mb).

I use Media Monkey. Its got a library if you want to use it, but if you dont, you can just browse your NAS and drag n drop to your ipod/iphone. You can also drag stuff out of your iphone. You can put your library on the network and share/add/delete/read/write to it. No need for syncing or authorizing.

If youre gonna use iTunes on the mac though, as BLD mentioned, Applescript is your friend. Check out Dougs Scripts http://dougscripts.com/itunes/
If youve got Windows, then I cant recommend iTunes at all. Try out Media Monkey instead. I actually just use MM for managing my tunes. I dont use it for playing. I still use Winamp. Some habits are hard to break i guess...

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

not much to add here, but i have itunes and it works fine on my pc. I have used it 6 years and don't want to lose all the play count/rating data plus it syncs with my ipod obviously so I've kept it. I have tried other media players though and don't see why people complain so much about apple. I've never really had a problem with it, and my music library is huge. I have it automatically organize my folders and I don't see how that could be any better. I mean it's literally artist/album/song, whats the problem?

[BrotherLovesDub]

Yeah, I know where you're coming from. I hate people who drive nice cars.

[froopy seal]

Just for the record: I don't generally hate people who use Apple products (or have nice cars).

[bas_I_am]

I don't hate people who use smacs...

I pat them on the head, give em a lollipop...

And then drive off in my brand new 2010 tech package rl paid for by writing distributed .net applications.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by froopy seal

Just for the record: I don't generally hate people who use Apple products (or have nice cars).

ditto.

and iTunes is not a "nice car". Maybe its a nice american car that weighs a couple of tons, runs with automatic gears ,doesnt go round corners very well, and guzzles gas like its going out of fashion. Suitable for some people but not for all.

[34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j]

Originally Posted by stimpee

ditto.

and iTunes is not a "nice car". Maybe its a nice american car that weighs a couple of tons, runs with automatic gears ,doesnt go round corners very well, and guzzles gas like its going out of fashion. Suitable for some people but not for all.

i don't get the analogy. does iTunes run too slow on your computer? which American cars are you referring to?

[kagenaki koe]

if you lost your data because you were too lazy to back up your files, it's not the PC or MAC that fucked up. seriously.

[TheBang]

Has this thread run its course yet?

[dubman]

i love this thread
here's a guy condescending to apple users while he's just lost all of his music because he's a moron

LOL