FIFA World Cup 2010

[BrotherLovesDub]

Football fans are ok with time wasting for flopping and diving but not for a replay to ensure the right call was made. That would ruin the beauty of the game. Stupid Americans will never understand.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

Football fans are ok with time wasting for flopping and diving but not for a replay to ensure the right call was made. That would ruin the beauty of the game. Stupid Americans will never understand.

the only stupid people who dont understand are the people at FIFA. we want replays as much as you do..

[cured]

Originally Posted by stimpee

the only stupid people who dont understand are the people at FIFA. we want replays as much as you do..

The head of US Soccer said he'd be willing to allow the MLS to be a test bed for new technologies. He also added this nugget:

Gulati said a FIFA executive committee member, whom he didn't identify, gave his own personal views about using technology.

"He was outlining a system that he had in his own mind thought of which was very similar to the NFL system, with the obvious difference of continuous action. But a challenge system, if the challenge is upheld, then you retain," Gulati said. "I don't think there's any doubt that FIFA will look at what's happened here, whether it's additional referees or some limited form of goal-line technology which they've looked at. They'll look at some things."

[mmm skyscraper]

Video replay does not solve everything. The replay official will just take the heat. And it won't stop the game for 30 seconds; they'll have to review every single goal from multiple angles for 5 minutes even if it was clearly a goal in the name of fairness. The replay has made US college football almost unwatchable; they spend a long time disputing a call and then still make the wrong decision:

[cured]

Originally Posted by mmm skyscraper

Video replay does not solve everything. The replay official will just take the heat. And it won't stop the game for 30 seconds; they'll have to review every single goal from multiple angles for 5 minutes even if it was clearly a goal in the name of fairness. The replay has made US college football almost unwatchable; they spend a long time disputing a call and then still make the wrong decision:

I never said it should completely mirror the American football system. It can't because American football is built on game stoppages and soccer is not. Watch a World Cup game and there will be a conclusive replay within a minute of the play in question happening, including off-sides calls. I'm suggesting a quick look to see if there was something egregious going on. American football and soccer are completely different animals.

Plus, refs occasionally don't make the correct call in American football replays but the vast, vast majority of the time, they get them right and you know it.

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub

Stupid Americans will never understand.

no - only fucking boneheadeds like you.

i'm explaining FIFA's stance. that's not my stance. it's FIFA's stance and why they do what they do. and it's a compelling argument when you think about the philosophy of a simple game. though you can't handle the concept of a fucking draw, so i'm on tough ground anyway.

so let's say we have it. what do we have replays for? goal/no goal? offside? diving? foul? hurt feelings? where do we stop? how often do we stop? i'd say goal/no goal is quick - after that you're getting into no end of fucking schoolground yah-boo-sucks pissing about. as much gamesmanship will sneak in moaning and demanding replays as to make the game unwatchable.

in short - GET FUCKING OVER IT AND STOP THE FUUUUUCKING BOOORING MOANING.

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

no - only fucking boneheadeds like you.

i'm explaining FIFA's stance. that's not my stance. it's FIFA's stance and why they do what they do. and it's a compelling argument when you think about the philosophy of a simple game. though you can't handle the concept of a fucking draw, so i'm on tough ground anyway.

so let's say we have it. what do we have replays for? goal/no goal? offside? diving? foul? hurt feelings? where do we stop? how often do we stop? i'd say goal/no goal is quick - after that you're getting into no end of fucking schoolground yah-boo-sucks pissing about. as much gamesmanship will sneak in moaning and demanding replays as to make the game unwatchable.

in short - GET FUCKING OVER IT AND STOP THE FUUUUUCKING BOOORING MOANING.

well it wouldn't be so hard to have a certain limitation on replays. Either limit it to goal/no goal or give each side the right to call for a replay a certain amount of times per match. Personally after what's been happening in this World Cup I don't see how you could describe the FIFA's argument as "compelling" in any way, simple game or not. If the game is so simple, then why all the bad calls? Obviously it's not so simple to make the right decisions with the current referee system.

[King of Snake]

oh yeah and by the way:
HOLLAND!!!

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by //\/\/

no - only fucking boneheadeds like you.

i'm explaining FIFA's stance. that's not my stance. it's FIFA's stance and why they do what they do. and it's a compelling argument when you think about the philosophy of a simple game. though you can't handle the concept of a fucking draw, so i'm on tough ground anyway.

so let's say we have it. what do we have replays for? goal/no goal? offside? diving? foul? hurt feelings? where do we stop? how often do we stop? i'd say goal/no goal is quick - after that you're getting into no end of fucking schoolground yah-boo-sucks pissing about. as much gamesmanship will sneak in moaning and demanding replays as to make the game unwatchable.

in short - GET FUCKING OVER IT AND STOP THE FUUUUUCKING BOOORING MOANING.

Methinks Ian is losing patience. Ho hum. Its fairly simple. Just look at other sports and when they use video evidence during the match. You dont stop play to look at a video replay. For the most part you just wait until the ball is out of play. There would be one problem and that was highlighted in the England v Germany match. Ball crosses the line, referee allows play to go on because he didnt see it. Now, the play isnt stopped because he thinks it hasnt crossed the line. There is protest from the team who think they have scored. When do you look at the evidence? What if the opposing team go down the other end and then score? Then you'd have to look at the first "goal" on video and then disallow the one at the other end.

However, referees have the power to blow their whistle and stop play if they deem what has happened reason enough. This happens for injuries or things like two balls on the field, or someone from the crowd throwing something at the keeper.

If you had video cameras in combination with other goal line technology this would be a moot point too...

[cured]

In my view, replays should only be given for goals. Check and see if the guy is onside and if the ball cleared the line. That's it.

Yellow and red cards should be dished out upon review of the game (diving/cheap shots) the next day or so to ensure the Italians have to play all their bench players