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Old 03-08-2009, 11:27 PM
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Re: Limbaugh
my god i'm giddy.

So where were we? Oh yeah. limbaugh. Read this and see if this isn't surprising to you as well. Its from David Frum.

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On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of "responsibility," and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him. And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as "losers." With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence—exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And we're cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rush's every rancorous word—we'll be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/188279?from=rss


Not surprising that its from David Frum. It makes perfect sense. Its surprising that people would buy into this "life long republican facing reality" shit. Rush is not a walking stereotype of self-indulgence. As above described he's a walking stereotype of corporate republicans. One of whom David Frum personally helped groom and foster. So we're expected to feel all nostalgic for the party of "buckley" after his own kid gets booted off the national review for endorsing obama? This from a bush speech writer, coiner of the phrase axis of bad guys, and wants "evil" removed from the world: ie non republicans. looks like a natural progression from frum to rush, and it smacks of cynicism to posture oneself as above it, let alone plead innocent of it.


Honestly Ron paul summed up the situation best: "sad."
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:58 AM
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Re: Limbaugh
Rush needs to up his meds, IMO
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:51 AM
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Re: Limbaugh
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In November 2006, Vanity Fair published an article by David Rose that listed a number of "the [Iraq] War's remorseful proponents," those erstwhile supporters of invading Iraq who had shifted their views and/or withdrawn their support of the Bush administration after the situation in Iraq steadily worsened. These included Perle, [COLOR=#001EE6]Kenneth Adelman[/COLOR], [COLOR=#4A2387]Michael Rubin[/COLOR], [COLOR=#4A2387]Michael Ledeen[/COLOR], [COLOR=#001EE6]Eliot Cohen[/COLOR], [COLOR=#001EE6]Frank Gaffney[/COLOR], and Frum. Rose reported that, "To David Frum ... it now looks as if defeat may be inescapable, because 'the insurgency has proven it can kill anyone who cooperates, and the United States and its friends have failed to prove that it can protect them.'"16
But Frum took issue with the magazine’s characterization of his views, proclaiming in the Huffington Post that there was "nothing remorseful" about his views. "It's true I fear that there is a real danger that the United States will lose in Iraq. And yes I do blame a lot that has gone wrong on failures of U.S. policy." Nevertheless, he said, "My most fundamental views on the war in Iraq remain as they were in 2003: The war was right, victory is essential, and defeat would be calamitous."17

i guess this is my point.

We are in agreement that the republican party is being run by demagogues, like rush, who are garnering power by emotional persuasion and thuggery.

We are in agreement that the neo cons and the bush administration sat around complacent while these same demagogues fended off imminent political defeat from facts and logic with passion and the manipulation of people's base fears/desires.

And now that such strategy didn't ultimately keep them in power and now has run its course into a distasteful spectacle of lay anger, now its something to from which they must keep their distance, condemn, and lament about the old days when republicans had an intellectual dimension and college graduates actually bought into the reagan = jesus bull shit.

just all seems patently disengenuous.
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:59 PM
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Re: Limbaugh
even if that was in a send-up film, it'd be too unbelievable to be believable...

...sorry, i just, i just can't write any more.... it's GOD it's just TOO DAMNED IMPORTANT TO ME!!!!
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