8 ball is better than you think!

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Does anyone else find this comment coming from FB Matt to be incredibly ironic? Did you seriously need to beg in about 4 different threads for people to enter your UW so you could sit at your PC processing statistics and entering data into spreadsheets for 4 weeks straight so you could tell us what percentage of dirties who entered your poll were called 'Matt'?

Come on, let the people talk about 8 Ball.

great post!
(not meaning any disrespect to the dirtypoll of course!!)

[stimpee]

pwned!!1!ones!

[change]

Has UW ever performed 8 Ball live? I think it could be as beautiful as Back in the Fears live with all those layers happening. The vibes might even be great.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Does anyone else find this comment coming from FB Matt to be incredibly ironic? Did you seriously need to beg in about 4 different threads for people to enter your UW so you could sit at your PC processing statistics and entering data into spreadsheets for 4 weeks straight so you could tell us what percentage of dirties who entered your poll were called 'Matt'?

Come on, let the people talk about 8 Ball.

- glad you read the stats....

well, the UW Poll is an Annual poll of favourite UW songs, and i thought i'd throw out some interesting statistics of the people who voted...

and with so many 'I love 8 Ball' and 'when are UW gonna play my town' type threads, the original poll thread kept getting pushed down the pages...it was a limited time vote and thus needed the exposure at the time...hence the re-posts

I don't want to be too down on 8 Ball but we've had this 'i love 8 Ball' thread several times over the past few years...

its just dull - i don't like 8 ball, but i'd feel the same if somone posted a thread called Jumbo...(which i love) - we just don't need a jumbo appreciation thread, unless it has a point

the general way these threads go...

first post: 'I love Jumbo...its rocks'

second post: 'so do i'

'yeah agreed'

'me too'

'i don't like it'

'well i do...'

blah-dee-blah.....

some people like it some people don't...surely that's the end of the story...no-one has come up with anything new about it...no-one has discoved anything new in it...its not gonna get a rerelease...just leave it be...

i'm not against anyone posting threads at all, i have no authority here, but if we did this for every bloody song, well there'd be 100+ threads...

btw its just my opinion...you 8 Ballers carry on...

(btw, KOS, i've never seen the Japanese 8 ball even though it was rumoured, did it actually come out - any one have a copy as proof - now if the thread was about the existence of this i'd be more interested....)

[gaborez]

if you can sit through the slightly dull first half, the second half of 8ball is absolutely beautiful

[King of Snake]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

(btw, KOS, i've never seen the Japanese 8 ball even though it was rumoured, did it actually come out - any one have a copy as proof - now if the thread was about the existence of this i'd be more interested....)

hmmm, well you're probably better informed about this than i am, so no i'm not actually sure this came out. It's just what i remember hearing somewhere

I do agree that there isn't much point to threads like these, but hey, it's the Underworld forum so they're bound to come up in times when there's not much else to talk about (until the next riverrun that is) and as long as there aren't actually hundreds of these threads going on i don't think it's a problem. People should be able, and even encouraged to communicate their feelings towards UW music don't you think?

[lukeyd]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

and with so many 'I love 8 Ball' and 'when are UW gonna play my town' type threads, the original poll thread kept getting pushed down the pages...it was a limited time vote and thus needed the exposure at the time...hence the re-posts

smacks of self importance to me. the starter of the "i love 8 ball" threads could equally complain that your numerous poll threads were clogging up the forum and pushing their threads down the pages

no offence meant matt. if you find these threads dull then ignore them. if its just the track you find dull, then by all means chime in with your tuppence.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by lukeyd

smacks of self importance to me. the starter of the "i love 8 ball" threads could equally complain that your numerous poll threads were clogging up the forum and pushing their threads down the pages

no offence meant matt. if you find these threads dull then ignore them. if its just the track you find dull, then by all means chime in with your tuppence.

none taken, and i mean no offence either, especially to Caprice who obviously with many others loves 8 Ball....i'm all for the freedom of choice, and opinions...

I don't like 8 Ball, and made my point about it...its dull, lifeless, and seems like filler material shipped out to some soundtrack, and it seems a waste of space on the anthology, imo...

my main point is that i just think that an 'I love xxx' track thread is a bit fruitless...

but thats not to say others won't appear, and that i won't contribute to them

Like KOS said, its good to talk about UW music and even encourage it, but what originally happened with this thread was that Caprice started it pretty well by saying that 8 Ball is better than you think and gave a couple of examples, then everyone else basically just chipped in and just said i love / hate 8 Ball, without really much more explanation...

[big screen satellite]

If anyone is interested, i did some searching on 8 Ball, a while back - concerning the single release:

It was released on the promo only 12" b/w Beached by Orbital, which, was released a single (seeing as it was kinda the theme tune to the film), but the Underworld track didn't come out for some reason...

anyway 8 Ball was obviously scheduled to get a release (presumably in Japan only) as this link on the EIL website confirms:

http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=153192

it even has a Virgin V2 cat number...and was scheduled, accoring to the data to have some remixes and extra 'content', but these mixes were either not completed or are still lying around somewhere...(i'll see if i can find anything out).

anyhow, it never came out as far as i know, simply because EIL never informed me when they got a copy, because one never arrived, as they told me at the time

so it remained a promo only track, afaik..., and if you don't have 1992-2002 - its on the Beach Soundtrack CD, or if you were lucky enough to get hold of the JBO 5 track sampler given out at the Astoria on 27.06.00 to celebrate 10 years of JBO, it on there too...and all of the versions are the same length with no edits or variations


just helping you 8 Ball lovers

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

my main point is that i just think that an 'I love xxx' track thread is a bit fruitless...

i see what you mean. a thread saying "i love xxx' track isnt very deep is it? but when people say why they love a track then thats much more.

Caprice: "it can bring happiness out of you"
hopeless: "makes any dark day a very soft and very beautiful grey day"
denknat: " it's fabulous....It's definitely a track that has a life of its own"
NinjaPower: "It's a pure gem, sublte and beautiful at the same time. Delicate piano & guitar work"
froopy seal: "a great, uplifting tune."
change: "As soon as I heard the layers of guitar building and building it sured this song as one of my all-time fav's."
holden: ""8 Ball" captures the wonderment and awe of walking around town and appreciating your surroundings."

So I dont mind these threads as long as they delve into why songs are loved so much and what they love about them.