Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011

[TheBang]

Originally Posted by Spooky Shoes

I expect the "edits" are just to squeeze the tracks on the disc.

I'm more optimistic than that. There were edits for time on 1992-2002, and none of those were labeled "2002 edit". There was Born Slippy (2003 Edit); granted it was "Edit" because it was an edit of the 12" mix, which is not the case here. But hopefully it's more interesting than just a fade-out.

But actually, taking a look at the tracklisting more closely, it doesn't add up. If we take the album times for everything:

1. The First Note is Silent - 5:40
2. Scribble - 6:58
3. Beebop Hurry - 3:05
4. Downpipe - 8:10
5. Crocodile - 6:30
6. To Heal - 2:36
7. Two Months Off - 9:08
8. Jumbo - 6:57
9. NUXX - 11:37
10. Dark Train -
11. Mmm Skyscraper -
12. Pearl's Girl - 9:36
13. Cowgirl Live - 3:40
14. Rez -
15. King of Snake - 8:56
16. Moaner - 7:38

even without the 2011 edits, we're already over an hour and a half, which is way too long. That doesn't even account for some of them that have longer versions, like Jumbo or Moaner. Let's try it with radio edits then:

1. The First Note is Silent (Radio Edit) - 3:36
2. Scribble (Radio Edit) - 3:50
3. Beebop Hurry - 3:05
4. Downpipe (Radio Edit) - 3:17
5. Crocodile (Radio Edit) - 3:51
6. To Heal - 2:36
7. Two Months Off (Radio Edit) - 3:59
8. Jumbo (Edit) - 4:08
9. NUXX (Short) - 4:23
10. Dark Train -
11. Mmm Skyscraper -
12. Pearl's Girl (Edit) - 4:24
13. Cowgirl Live - 3:40
14. Rez -
15. King of Snake (Straight Mate Mix) - 3:51
16. Moaner (Short Version) - 4:10

This makes more sense. Given the sheer number of tracks on A Collection, it's gotta be all radio edits. Without the 2011 edits, this is at 49 minutes, which means 25 minutes left over for the 2011 edits. Since those 3 don't already have radio edits, it means these new 2011 edits are probably radio-ish edits, 3-5 minutes long each. So the total Collection runtime will come in at just over an hour.

[bryantm3]

also it seems to me that it would be better to have a new order "substance" approach— for the most part, if it's on an album it doesn't get put on the anthology.

[ultradave]

...reissue, repackage, repackage... double pack with a photograph, extra track and a tacky badge...

hoping there will be some minor 2011 tweaks here or there on either of these releases. i'm sold on the artwork alone.

[TheBang]

OK, track timings are up for Anthology on Amazon JP:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/tracks/B0...s_all_1#disc_1

Assuming the timings are accurate, here are the highlights:

1. Jumbo, full version 9:12, previously difficult to obtain
2. The Hump, previously only available on limited vinyl
3. An apparently longer version of Big Meat Show. 9:05 vs. 6:51 on the demo DAT.
4. An apparently longer version of Minneapolis. 10:04 vs. approx. 9:07 on the vinyl.
5. Full version of Why Why Why (12:12)
6. Second Hand. Previously only available on Cafe Del Mar collection.
7. Parc (Live) (2005). Possibly a previously unreleased version. Track timing (3:28) does not match any previous release (Amsterdam - 7:39, The Bells The Bells - 4:16, Brixton - 8:15). It was known to have been played in 2005 at Montreux Jazz Festival and Melt Festival.

[potatobroth]

Second Hand is just a cut down Thing in a Book right? 3+min Parc? Seems way too short to even get all the verses in.

eh. Looks like I'm passing on this one.

[testudo]

I think what is really surprising is that Please Help Me is missing.

This track was widely discussed as a favorite of UW, and it was said that it didn't fit stylistically) on Beaucoup Fish.

The track listing is bizarre/conservative to say the least.

[undarrenworld]

Originally Posted by TheBang

OK, track timings are up for Anthology on Amazon JP:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/tracks/B0...s_all_1#disc_1

Assuming the timings are accurate, here are the highlights:

1. Jumbo, full version 9:12, previously difficult to obtain
3. An apparently longer version of Big Meat Show. 9:05 vs. 6:51 on the demo DAT.
4. An apparently longer version of Minneapolis. 10:04 vs. approx. 9:07 on the vinyl.

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Nice find, Im looking forward to that!

[m.g.]

Originally Posted by TheBang

1. Jumbo, full version 9:12, previously difficult to obtain
2. The Hump, previously only available on limited vinyl
3. An apparently longer version of Big Meat Show. 9:05 vs. 6:51 on the demo DAT.
4. An apparently longer version of Minneapolis. 10:04 vs. approx. 9:07 on the vinyl.
5. Full version of Why Why Why (12:12)
6. Second Hand. Previously only available on Cafe Del Mar collection.
7. Parc (Live) (2005). Possibly a previously unreleased version. Track timing (3:28) does not match any previous release (Amsterdam - 7:39, The Bells The Bells - 4:16, Brixton - 8:15). It was known to have been played in 2005 at Montreux Jazz Festival and Melt Festival.

Mmmm... it gives even more reasons to buy this

[holden]

Originally Posted by TheBang

Assuming the timings are accurate, here are the highlights:

1. Jumbo, full version 9:12, previously difficult to obtain
2. The Hump, previously only available on limited vinyl
3. An apparently longer version of Big Meat Show. 9:05 vs. 6:51 on the demo DAT.
4. An apparently longer version of Minneapolis. 10:04 vs. approx. 9:07 on the vinyl.
5. Full version of Why Why Why (12:12)
6. Second Hand. Previously only available on Cafe Del Mar collection.
7. Parc (Live) (2005). Possibly a previously unreleased version. Track timing (3:28) does not match any previous release (Amsterdam - 7:39, The Bells The Bells - 4:16, Brixton - 8:15). It was known to have been played in 2005 at Montreux Jazz Festival and Melt Festival.

Bang, i appreciate the details/breakdown!
Yes, i will buy this especially for
2. The Hump (didn't have a quality rec. of that),
3. Big Meat Show (longer version) and
6. Second Hand (though i'm pretty happy with the version that used to be on the UWLive archive, like back in 2002-ish...it's apparently a live studio jam but fairly true to the Cafe del Mar version).

As for the other tracks, i'm still hopeful, but the time differences, even a minute or more, usually spell "edit" or "looped fade out" to me. But hey, there were some surprises on 1992-2002 and also on the Ansum/AHDO promo...hopefully here as well.

[negative1]

Originally Posted by TheBang

OK, track timings are up for Anthology on Amazon JP:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/tracks/B0...s_all_1#disc_1

4. An apparently longer version of Minneapolis. 10:04 vs. approx. 9:07 on the vinyl.

hmmm. unless the artwork is wrong.
i wonder if 'minniapolis' is still spelled wrong.
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i'll have to update these lists:
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later
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