Bungalow with Stairs album

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Originally Posted by negative1

it boils down to releasing everything digitally, on vinyl, cd, and at a cheap cost..
which i just don't see happening anytime..

I don't see why not. I mean, you really only need one physical format but really, how hard can it be to put this online for download. They have an online shop in place, it's just a matter of ripping the CD. I mean I really cannot see how it could take more than a few hours.

[purlieu]

Originally Posted by negative1

just because it wasn't all recorded for the exhibition,
what difference does that make concerning it's status as
released for the exhbit only? [again i refer to earlier releases
like the anti-rom]

i'm sure there's a lot of licensing issues, and other things
involved with making a limited run of material available,
and the complexity of including and printing a book..

The difference it makes is that it seems the catalogue is what's making it expensive - what's stopping them releasing the music on its own? If it was written and recorded specifically for the exhibition then maybe that would make more sense, but as the albums is compiled from existing music, I can't see why it can't be made available separate to the artwork.

I'm sure there's not a lot of licensing issues involved with making a limited run of material available. Having done it a few times myself, I know the costs involved and how easy it is. The only thing stopping them from doing it is not wanting to.

it boils down to releasing everything digitally, on vinyl, cd, and at a cheap cost..
which i just don't see happening anytime..

Releasing everything digitally and on CD at a cheap cost is not difficult or expensive. If there's enough call for it - which, as you've handily pointed out - there seems to be, maybe they should consider it.
Or maybe they really shouldn't care what their fans think and release what they want how they want. I'd personally prefer a band to take into account what their fans are saying. I'd personally prefer a band not to charge £30 for an hour's music if it's the only way of getting hold of it. I think it would be very decent of them to offer music at a more 'normal' price. The same as I think it would be very decent of the other bands you mentioned to do so too. Which, various other arguments and tangents aside, is the basic point here: they could make this music available to people who really want to hear it but can't afford to pay 3-4 times the normal amount for it, and they're choosing not to. Some people seem to think that's ok, others think it's not.

[Strawman]

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in the end, they really can't win..

1) release something online only -> people complain that there isn't a physical release
(see riverrun series, alll the latest singles from 'barking')

2) release something physical only -> people complain that it isn't available digitally
(see the BWS album+book, tokyo 3xcd, underworld video compilations)

3) release something in vinyl only -> people complain that it isn't digital format
(some of the riverun singles, although most have been converted over now)

4) release something limited -> people complain about the price, and how hard it
is to get it, and in what formats etc... (the barking limited editions w/extra cd)

so looking at all the different combinations of how they could release something,
to make people 'happy'..

it boils down to releasing everything digitally, on vinyl, cd, and at a cheap cost..
which i just don't see happening anytime..

by the way, i'm not sure what arrangements bjork/depeche mode/pet shop boys
have... but they have been putting out a ton of singles, box sets, and all kinds of
other fancy formats of all the above for the last couple of albums... i'm sure they
have a larger audience, so that's something to take into account too..and also, their
limited editions are not 'cheap' either...

later
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HA......nice summary....

[stimpee]

Since when is this art? Its a catalogue and a CD... for an art exhibition. I havent bought it because I just want the CD and not the catalogue, which would no doubt gather dust after a brief flick through.

Originally Posted by ThingInABook

*cough*in rainbows*wheeze*
it's a cd with a catalog - 30quid are about 27.000 chilean pesos, which is the price of a deluxe edition cd here. and is what i pay around here when i get fancy cds here (i paid 20.000 for OwB 2cd edition). i can't i and i won't complain.

In Rainbows was a double CD and double vinyl box set of new music. Different product. And BwS is not 30quid. To Chile, its 40quid which is about 30,000 pesos. I guess some people dont see it as value for money and see it as fleecing the fans. I also think its a fair request to release just the CD in the future, though the people here who've paid through the nose for the catalogue+CD might feel a bit pissed off if/when that happens.

This is great for the people that can afford it and shit for those who cant.

[ThingInABook]

Originally Posted by stimpee

Since when is this art? Its a catalogue and a CD... for an art exhibition. I havent bought it because I just want the CD and not the catalogue, which would no doubt gather dust after a brief flick through.

In Rainbows was a double CD and double vinyl box set of new music. Different product. And BwS is not 30quid. To Chile, its 40quid which is about 30,000 pesos. I guess some people dont see it as value for money and see it as fleecing the fans. I also think its a fair request to release just the CD in the future, though the people here who've paid through the nose for the catalogue+CD might feel a bit pissed off if/when that happens.

This is great for the people that can afford it and shit for those who cant.

well, the in rainbows comment was about the 'pay what you want' deal, which included the boxset at 40quid (what about paying 80.000chilean pesos? yeah, i did that and i don't regret it - stupid exchange rate BTW)

well, that's the price i pay for records here, specially deluxe editions or regular editions with something extra. that's the reason i can't complain about the price, not even the shipping, because records are expensive here (and books, that's another story). it would be neat to see the record at a price accessible for everyone, but it's a limited pressing and the low number of cds can justify its price, considering this was self produced. yeah, i'm not an endless sack of money, but i do save in case this things happen. i love and enjoy objects so i buy them if i have the chance.

[TheBang]

For packages sent from the UK, it usually takes about 3 weeks for them to reach me.

[lemonjelly]

I live in the UK, & have happily recieved mine.

On the price discussion, it is worth what people will pay for it. The market will set the price.

I have on had chance to have a cursory look at the book, & haven't played the cd yet. I like the bundle together though.

[khouri]

A friend of mine in Massachusetts received his today, so they are finally hitting the U.S.

[ultradave]

I received a confirmation of shipment via Royal Mail yesterday so I'm hoping to be getting mine soon.

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wow, "Dreeve" is really creeping me out. Anyone want to try to transcribe that???