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Old 05-14-2008, 11:19 AM
Sean
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
Well, Clinton wins West Virginia by a huge margin last night, and Obama still picks up two more superdelegates this morning:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

"Obama has picked up about 30 superdelegates in the last week, altogether a bigger prize than West Virginia offered either candidate in the lopsided primary."

That was pretty much the last hurdle as far as I can tell - how people would react to a big Clinton win in West Virginia. Looks like it made no difference to the people who remain in a position to influence the outcome of the nomination race.

I feel so relaxed right now.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
Me too.

It's hard to think what else she could now pull out the bag to turn this around.

(I know I know.... may have been genuine.... )
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:57 PM
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Me too.

It's hard to think what else she could now pull out the bag to turn this around.

(I know I know.... may have been genuine.... )
See I'm sure it was sincere (parts at least) but the fact that its questionable is what is tragic about clinton.
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:59 PM
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"I confirm the endorsement (of John Edwards)," Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki confirmed to reporters.

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Old 05-14-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
This just came through the interwebs:

Edwards to endorse Obama

I think it also means Senator Obama would get Edwards' 19 pledged delegates, too?
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:49 PM
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This just came through the interwebs:

Edwards to endorse Obama

I think it also means Senator Obama would get Edwards' 19 pledged delegates, too?
It's about f@#$%n' time.

Thanks for the interwebs link...
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: U.S. Presidential Election 2008
i don't know whether the link above was intentionally linked to this story or not. since the comments are about "she" i have to assume the content updated. this is what i just read:

Quote:
CNN) – Barack Obama has personally apologized to a Michigan television reporter for referring to her as "sweetie" as she tried to ask a question. The comment came earlier Wednesday when WXYZ reporter Peggy Agar asked Obama at a campaign stop, “How are you going to help the American auto workers?”
Obama told Agar to "hold on, sweetie," and said he would address that issue with her later. Agar said she never got an answer to her question.
According to WXYZ, Obama personally left a voice message for Agar Wednesday afternoon, apologizing for both not answering the question and for calling her "sweetie."
"That's a bad habit of mine," Obama said in the message. "I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect and so I am duly chastened on that front.
"Feel free to call me back. I expect that my press team will be happy to try to make it up to you whenever we are in Detroit next," he added.
Obama also took some heat in Pennsylvania last month for referring to a factory worker as "sweetie."
i've got to admit, this is a pretty goddamned big blemish, in my opinion. i have a range of hot button issues but if i were to have one big, round, shiny master button, this would be it.

it speaks volumes about a man when he speaks in such a diminishing way to a woman. i've got a serious problem with this.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:45 AM
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i don't know whether the link above was intentionally linked to this story or not. since the comments are about "she" i have to assume the content updated. this is what i just read:



i've got to admit, this is a pretty goddamned big blemish, in my opinion. i have a range of hot button issues but if i were to have one big, round, shiny master button, this would be it.

it speaks volumes about a man when he speaks in such a diminishing way to a woman. i've got a serious problem with this.
I can understand the "hot button" aspect of it, but at it's core, I have to say that I feel it's unreflective of who he really is. Nothing in Obama's actual treatment of women indicates he in any way views them as inferior. For example, I doubt he would have been able to marry a woman as strong and intelligent as Michelle Obama if he had some kind of latent, sexist tendencies. I would agree however that it would be a good idea for him to try to break the habit of using a word like "sweetie" for exactly the reasons you cite. Although I don't believe for a second that he's a misogynist, I do believe it's a poor choice of words. Luckily, he appears to recognize and acknowledge this in his comments.

That aside, here's a great example of how Hillary's continuing strategy of questioning Obama's qualifications has been a big mistake. Even in an article about how she thinks her supporters should absolutely vote for Obama if he's the nominee, here's the sinkhole of crap she's created:

In response to Clinton's comments, Republican National Committee Spokesman Alex Conant issued a statement:
"Just as Sen. Clinton herself has questioned Obama's qualifications to be president and enact change, so do many of her supporters."

Way to go, Hill.

Also, Cacaphony, your guy is in the news today saying that statements made by Bush this morning are "bullshit":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ments-bulls-t/

I say Biden for VP.

And lastly, Obama has picked up four more superdelegates this morning, as well as at least six of John Edward's eight pledged delegates from South Carolina.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:05 PM
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Speaking of women's issues....

Try getting through a couple comments left on the NARAL website after the women's rights group threw their support towards obama. Hell hath no fury....

http://www.blogforchoice.com/archive....html#comments

yikes!
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:27 PM
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Speaking of women's issues....

Try getting through a couple comments left on the NARAL website after the women's rights group threw their support towards obama. Hell hath no fury....

http://www.blogforchoice.com/archive....html#comments

yikes!
Daaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnn!!

The last comment on there is pretty solid though (By Kayly Newcomer on May 15, 2008 2:16 PM).
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