Bungalow with Stairs album

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Originally Posted by froopy seal

As much as I respect Reznor's progressive approach, to me digital-only releases still aren't as valuable, as significant, as 'beautiful' as physical copies. Even if they comprise tons of additional photos and stuff. That's why I'm hardly ever psyched by an Underworld release if it's digital-only.

With this opinion, I'm probably part of the analogue dinosaurs who will die out, by the by. But I have a feeling that there's still a decent share of music-lovers out there who think along the same lines, and who value CD + artwork over instant availability.

I love that Underworld take an effort in producing quality physical releases, whilst accepting that they have to go with the flow of the great digital data stream. And, of course, I prefer being able to purchase a Bungalow download instead of not having it at all.

I understand that. But honestly I wonder why stuff like this is not released digitally. You can still have a physical copy, just give me the option to pay whatever to download it. I don't want an answer of "this is the way they choose to release their art", I want to know why. I respect that if they only want it on disc but this is just music for an installation, I don't really understand keeping that physical from an artistic perspective. I don't know if they necessarily lose anything by releasing it in mp3 form.

Right now the price with postage is $62. As much as I love UW that's just a really steep price for something that is not even really an album proper. I'd gladly fork over $20 or maybe more for a digital copy. If they don't offer it I'll probably just torrent it like the Live in Tokyo set that I so desperately wanted on CD. When the Riverruns came out, I was really happy with that and was hoping for the beginning of something big. It's hard to believe that five years later they are still releasing stuff on very expensive and limited discs. I don't want to whine about it, I'm just curious as to why they are doing it this way. Maybe a digital release will come along next week and I'll just shut my trap. Who knows.

[lowbit]

Originally Posted by froopy seal

As much as I respect Reznor's progressive approach, to me digital-only releases still aren't as valuable, as significant, as 'beautiful' as physical copies. Even if they comprise tons of additional photos and stuff. That's why I'm hardly ever psyched by an Underworld release if it's digital-only.

I really loved Riverrun, but I'm with you on wanting a physical release – digital just doesn't have the same feel (uh...literally, I guess ) and brings with it its own unique set of problems.

However I wasn't just talking about Reznor's digital output; he's also been building and fine-tuning mechanism for getting concert tickets and physical media to fans while discouraging profiteering, and from all appearances they seem to be working. Even if you're not at all a NIN fan (and I'm not sure I am any more), it's worth keep an occasional eye on what he's up to, if only to see some examples of what the music industry can be doing right with technology and the Internet.

[the mongoose]

more copies are now available for purchase in the store

[BrotherLovesDub]

Rick and Karl made the items they wanted to represent the art they created in exactly the way they wanted. You have a choice to buy it or not. Either buy it or don't buy it but don't bitch because it wasn't released in exactly the format you want for the price you think is fair. It's not your art, it's not your call. Buy it or don't buy it. It's an easy choice.

[lowbit]

Er...by the same token, it's your choice whether or not to read our posts, so you may want to consider not bitching about how you don't like hearing about how we're unhappy with the way that some of the music is being released.

[joethelion]

well - the difference between the Jack White thing and us...

Is that (at least to me) -> The whole "White Stripes deal" was all about having a physical copy of a "collectable" version of a previously issued album. It's just their first album folks, you can get it on amazon, cd shops, etc etc (although not in a "super shiny package")

but what people here were bitching about - stop me if I'm wrong - was more about not having the ability to obtain the actual CONTENT. At least I know all I wanted (until the album was available for sale) was a mp3/wav/aac download (following in line of say, Trent Reznor/ NIN)

and don't people have to PAY for the "Vault Program"????

Also - Jack White is cool and all... but I mean I just don't "get it" sometimes

[ThingInABook]

there are more copies up for sale and this is the point where i ask for some help:

anyone can buy me a copy? i don't know what the hell is going on with uwlive's store. i still can't pay with paypal and i'm getting the same error everytime ("Paypal does not allow your country of residence to ship to the country you wish to"). the shipping to chile is 9.38quid, making a grand total of 39.83. let's round it to 40quid.

please PM. i've already tried it all: mailing digitalanimal, sending messages to andy, posting angry messages in paypal... nothing has worked

EDIT: thanks everyone for reading, mr TheBang is helping me out right now

[lemonjelly]

Originally Posted by ThingInABook

there are more copies up for sale and this is the point where i ask for some help:

anyone can buy me a copy? i don't know what the hell is going on with uwlive's store. i still can't pay with paypal and i'm getting the same error everytime ("Paypal does not allow your country of residence to ship to the country you wish to"). the shipping to chile is 9.38quid, making a grand total of 39.83. let's round it to 40quid.

please PM. i've already tried it all: mailing digitalanimal, sending messages to andy, posting angry messages in paypal... nothing has worked

EDIT: thanks everyone for reading, mr TheBang is helping me out right now

I think the problem is a uwlive/paypal interface type problem. I'm in the UK, & first the catalogue/cd was there last friday, I went home form work forgetting to order it, came back monday - sold out. Tried that afternoon (lord knows why) back in stock! Tried to buy, got a funny paypal message. Emailed sales@underworldlive.com & got an exceedingly helpful reply.

Someone at uwlive kindly drew up a manual receipt, & I have paid & now will wait quite eagerly every day, rushing home from work in the vain hope it has arrived.

Yes £30 is a lot. However I know how hard I work for my £, & I decided that the effort to get £30 is worth what I hope will be a lovely item.

Now I'm off to research the liveherenow recordings....

[ThingInABook]

Originally Posted by lemonjelly

I think the problem is a uwlive/paypal interface type problem.

yeah, i thought it could be something like that. did some research (lol google) and it has to do with a paypal API problem. since it gets sold out quickly i asked for help from someone here (TheBang bought a copy for me - and my paypal is actually working, we did a test already, i just need to pay him )

but i still want some things from the store... i will email sales instead. thanks for the advice

[lemonjelly]

Originally Posted by ThingInABook

yeah, i thought it could be something like that. did some research (lol google) and it has to do with a paypal API problem. since it gets sold out quickly i asked for help from someone here (TheBang bought a copy for me - and my paypal is actually working, we did a test already, i just need to pay him )

but i still want some things from the store... i will email sales instead. thanks for the advice

I'll be honest, I was waffling. I know little about pc's, & less about the web. In example, I still cannot fathom what rtsr is, or where it is... But I read about it & get interested.

I tried making a purchase, & got some wierd message from paypal. As the cd does sell out quick, I emailed in a vain hope. It took a day for uwlive to get back to me, but can't complain at all with their reply & service.

However this also suggests that some more catalogues/cd's still remain.