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Old 06-28-2005, 10:52 PM
Future Proof
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
Han Solo's intro to Chewie is explained in the 4th movie. Nuff said, since I've already proclaimed that this 3rd movie ties the other one together, not to mention that there's like 30-something years that pass between the end of ROTS and ANH....
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
I thought the in betweens of Anakin changing form the dark to the light side every five seconds was horribly done. One second he is doing it all for his wife next second he is strangling her. Yeah sure cause he is evil now and stuff, it was still pretty retarded.

To be totally honest the coolest thing in this whole movie was Palpatine and his devious plan to take over and eliminate the Jedi. When the clone army turned on the Jedi that was cool as hell. Go Palpatine!
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:19 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
I enjoyed it the first time, but the second time I started to get annoyed by things.
Overall it's the strongest of the prequels, but that's not saying much. It's just because the content they had to deal with in this movie was more interesting than the previous ones, not because Lucas learned anything from his mistakes.
In the very first scenes we are treated to some "funny" banter between Obi Wan and Anaking in their spaceships, which like every conversation between them is totally unconvincing and not funny. ("this is where the fun begins"). Then obi wans ship is attacked by the most ridiculous weapon ever devised: a missile which transforms into little droids which start to take the ship apart. Yeah right, why not just fire an EXPLOSIVE missile and blow up the ship at once? Stupid. Of course all the droids and even the droid starfighters now have little sounds as if they were living creatures or personalities. Then we are treated to the battle droids in the hangar, which they have given "funny" helium voices and who are having even funnier conversations with eachother. The droids also say "uh-oh" about four times in the movie. Whoever thought of that should be shot. Oh yeah, they had a wookie who made a tarzan yell. I don't mean something that sounded tarzan-like, no it was literally tarzan! The person who thought that would be cool should be dipped in acid, then shot.
Again, none of the big battle scenes (Coruscant, Kashyyyk) had any sense of direction or focus, which really killed the suspense (as if it wasn't already killed by the constant "funny" jokes and tarzan wookies).
General Grievous was a cool idea but again they made him "funny" by having a stupid overacted voice and have him wheezing and coughing all the time. He could have been real intimidating and sinister, but instead he was just another goofy and unneccesary character that added nothing to the story.
Anakin's turn to the dark side has been discussed before, and I agree it wasn't very believable. "yeah ok I'll kill children and betray my friends just because maybe I can save my wife who perhaps could die in childbirth because I saw it in a dream".
There was a great scene with palpatine and anakin at the "concert" though, where you almost sympatise with palpatine as he explains the dark side to anakin. The final battle between Obi Wan and Anakin was very good too, especially the ending. "I hate you!!" possibly the best line by Hayden in the whole trilogy. I thought that was pretty powerful. Sadly the "NOOOOO!" by Darth Vader was so cheesy again, like a 3rd rate star wars comic book or something.
Palpatine when he changed to evil emperor was waaay over the top as well. He should have been sinister and scary, but instead he was a laughable cackling idiot. Totally unbelievable that Anakin would follow him when he sees him like that.
There were some strange plotholes as well: when Padme is giving birth, the medical droid says something like "we need to operate immediately", but then she just gives birth normally and they don't need to operate at all! What the hell? Also if they are already building the Death Star at the end of this movie, then they sure took their time to finish it! Episode IV is what, 20 years later? But they seemed to be able to build the second Death Star in a few years perhaps? Very strange. And suddenly, at the end of the movie the fleet of the republic has done the complete transformation to imperial fleet, with the grey uniforms and all that. Seems pretty unrealistic, but hey they had to tie it in with the other movies of course even if it doesn't make sense at all.

I still enjoyed the movie though, the killing of the jedi was cool, but there's way too much of this kind of crap to make it on par with A new Hope or Empire Strikes Back.

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Old 06-29-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
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not to mention that there's like 30-something years that pass between the end of ROTS and ANH....
seeing as Luke is probably supposed to be about 20-something in ANH (is his exact age ever revealed?), that is the time that has passed between the two films. (since he is born at the end of ROTS)
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:29 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
What would have improved the movies, as me and my friend came up with, is if Darth Maul, Count Dooku and General Grievous had been a single character. There was no need to split that role into three throw-away characters. It diluted the drama. Imagine if Obi-Wan had finally bested Qui-Gon's killer, two movies later.

Of course, the plot would require minor revisions, but it would have been doable. Then this trilogy would have had it's Darth Vader, too.
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:31 PM
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its one long Saga now...and hating one episode - you hate the entire essence of the SAGA...its like skipping a chapter in a book...all the episodes are there and all are necessary to the 'sense' of the Star Wars experience...
nonsense. It's not like the plots for the prequals where all ready and written at the same time as the original trilogy. They just extended the saga that was there, with some of the ideas George had about the backstory of certain characters.
What's wrong with enjoying just the parts that are actually good? I mean, I've seen all the films (and read some of the books) so I know all the backstory, that doesn't mean I have to appreciate how they told that story in these new movies.
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Old 06-29-2005, 05:03 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
After a month and five viewings, it's starting to wear a bit thin. I still enjoyed it but it wasn't without it's problems. With low expectations it was good, but had SOOOOOOO much potential it still makes me somewhat sad about how it all turned out.
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Old 06-29-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
The thing that I really enjoyed about it was the parallel between when Anakin turned to the dark side, and when he turned from the dark side. That is, he goes over when Mace and Palpatine are fighting, and, in Jedi, when the Emperor is electrocuting his son, it's like a parallel moment, and as if he could look back on how his life had gone between those two moments. The second time, it was like he was given a chance to take back his previous choice.

That's what I really liked about this movie.
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Old 06-29-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
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The thing that I really enjoyed about it was the parallel between when Anakin turned to the dark side, and when he turned from the dark side. That is, he goes over when Mace and Palpatine are fighting, and, in Jedi, when the Emperor is electrocuting his son, it's like a parallel moment, and as if he could look back on how his life had gone between those two moments. The second time, it was like he was given a chance to take back his previous choice.

That's what I really liked about this movie.
The thing about the prequels though is that there was the room for much more of these parallels than what we saw.

A great opportunity was squandered.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith...
the movie is cool, good, dark (it could have been darker)

the book, kicks ass

one big disappointment,

anakin kills shaak-ti before killing the students,
it wasn't in the movie

george i hope you make that a deleted scene on the dvd
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