Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig

[BeautifulBurnout]

I think we have done this subject to death on this thread already.

Originally Posted by crank

Do UW read this? If so why no availability of said disc to us? I mean
don't they realize they are forcing the proverbial hand of bootlegging?

This is likely to be a matter relating to licenses and copyrights. It is, ultimately, down to the record company what is released and when in the UK or anywhere else. Perhaps the licence/copyright issue is different in Japan, which has allowed them to do this.

[Leon]

Maybe have some patience and they'll bring it online in some time?

I don't know

[stimpee]

This comes down to essentially the same argument as we had with distribution of the Skyscraper CD, only I believe this is worse. This is brand new, containing new material and although its limited, its run is quite a lot. It was on sale potentially to everyone who attended both Tokyo and Osaka. This is not a promo or a bootleg.

The Buffalo Daughter remix of Bruce Lee was a Japan only release that was probably limited to 10,000 or less copies but that also isnt condoned to copy it and distribute it. The only difference here is that the opportunities to buy it have been severly limited to 2 nights.

But, it stands that this is a commercial release from Underworld. The Underworld forums never have been and never will be a trading place for Underworld recordings, especially commercially released recordings. The rules have been bent before for the odd track from an old promo only vinyl release but that does not set a precedent.

Come on guys, if you want to find it, you WILL find it. You'll find copies either genuine on ebay or on your favourite P2P application. Just not here.

[DaveCTM]

Is there any artwork with these CDs??

[joethelion]

I really wish you hadn't mentioned the Buffalo Daughter remix

as you know what?

guess where I got it -> via one of the older "resources" of RTSR

as well as:

Rowla (long version)
Thrill Me Remixes
Schmoo Remixes
All of the Lemon Interrupt Releases (remixes & otherwise)
Steppin' Razor remixes
those Sven Vath remixes
ME/the Hump
Mmm Skyscraper remixes

I just don't understand what the heck happened. Before, the community was open to share releases that were impossible to find. Then... all of the sudden - everyone simply clammed up.

This happened about the time that I started talking with Negative 1 about putting together an anthology of rare tracks and remixes. -1 then took the project and was helped by matval1... then "debate" arose.

Then I tried to get together at least a remix collection (UW of other artists)... but no one would help me. As people debated as to whether or not it was 'cool' to share commercially available music.

Damn - just sometimes I wish it was like back in the old days... does anyone else remember vap1d's ftp? on that you could find everything!

...but I do completely agree with Stimpee that the out and out sharing of stuff shouldn't be done here - especially stuff that you can find at commercial outlets. But the difference with this release, is that it wasn't, and will never be, available via commercial outlets. UW themselves said it was just for those who attended the shows. I doubt if they pressed more copies than were actually ordered. So - in my eyes, that's the same as a promo

It just royally pisses me off that places like eil.com, vinyl exchange, etc etc get these promo's and then resell them for rediculously higher prices than what they paid for them.

Case in point -> the only way you can buy either "radio versions" of DM's "A Pain That I'm Used To" is if I want to fork out $150. Neither will be released on official cd's, and as they were promo's... DM didn't make any money off the release of the tracks... yet these 'collector' sites make tons of money off of them.

Yet - it's frowned upon if I want to at least score mp3's of the tracks

...which reminds me - does anyone have those two aforementioned tracks

(edit)
or am I just completely mis-interpreting what's already been said about sharing stuff?

[dubman]

isn't the.. wait, lemme check

huh, i guess it isn't.
i coulda swore the buffalo daughter mix was on my BF singles box, but i suppose not.
how do i have it then?
oh yeah, because joe gave it to me... haha.

[lloyd]

pics of the artwork on my blog

[stimpee]

joethelion: im with you on using trade and other means like RTSR to get rare songs from promos. but this aint a promo and dirty aint the place. im not even sure that RTSR is the place for this one.

underworld already broadcast the osaka gig for everyone via underworldlive.

you're welcome to drop by the dirty.org chat at the #rtsr channel and chat sometime to discuss this and other things though. there are always ways to get what you want, just not on this forum.

[GoatSucker]

I agree with the general consensus here - this is a new commercial release by Underworld, so openly sharing it is kind of sticking two fingers up to more releases like it.

Looking it things from other other side, if I had taken the trouble to go to Japan and buy one on site, I'd be pissed if it instantly appeared for download for free. I'd want it to stay are rare as possible.

I know that when I finally get my hands on one of these, I'll be far happier and will treasure it far more for hunting it down than if I'd simply clicked a download link.

[Professor]

Originally Posted by GoatSucker

I know that when I finally get my hands on one of these, I'll be far happier and will treasure it far more for hunting it down than if I'd simply clicked a download link.

exactly........