Mmm...Download

[King of Snake]

yes, after the 80's revival, soon the early 90's will be hip and hot again!

[Renze]

OMG better step in now so we can make a fortune out of the upcoming hype!

[the mongoose]

Originally Posted by King of Snake

yes, after the 80's revival, soon the early 90's will be hip and hot again!

more like hip and hop again

now BUST A MOVE!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by stimpee

If you wish to discuss things like this, then please do it away from the forum.

intensifier has just proven that copies can be bought legally and cheaply if youre lucky enough and look hard enough.

Bloody hell. This is stupid. Maybe in a purely bureaucratic sense you are right, but if you're saying that UW are losing out if you download a rare remix because you might be able to hunt out a 2nd hand copy of Mmm Skyscraper on eBay or somewhere else, then you are, I'm afraid, talking bollocks. Personally I frown upon the unscrupulous way in which many people use p2p (i.e. instead of buying any music at all), but if we're going to get twitchy because someone suggests downloading a rare remix from a long-deleted single release, then we truly are ani (ani being the plural of anus). Is there a serious suggestion that downloading the track in question would deprive UW/JBO of any financial income? Surely it's highly unlikely that Karl, Rick or Steve Hall are actually selling this on eBay in an attempt to balance the books from 13 years ago? And sorry to get all semantic on you, but intensifier has not 'proven that copies can be bought legally and cheaply if youre lucky enough and look hard enough', merely that he/she was lucky enough to find one at such a price. Personally I've found the price to be more in line with what was mooted early in this thread, and hence would encourage anyone who didn't want to pay such a price to download both the Jamscraper and Telegraph remixes as soon as they get the chance, instead of lining some dealer's pockets (unless they really want the artwork or whatever).

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Bloody hell. This is stupid. Maybe in a purely bureaucratic sense you are right, but if you're saying that UW are losing out if you download a rare remix because you might be able to hunt out a 2nd hand copy of Mmm Skyscraper on eBay or somewhere else, then you are, I'm afraid, talking bollocks. Personally I frown upon the unscrupulous way in which many people use p2p (i.e. instead of buying any music at all), but if we're going to get twitchy because someone suggests downloading a rare remix from a long-deleted single release, then we truly are ani (ani being the plural of anus). Is there a serious suggestion that downloading the track in question would deprive UW/JBO of any financial income?

the principle is that we do not discuss the trading of commercially released material. period. long deleted, rare, whatever. otherwise, where do you draw the line? you have to define which records are rare, and which records are ok to copy and which ones not. im not singling out this or any particular record. its just easier this way.

if you really wish to trade mp3s of Underworld stuff, then I cant stop you. there are other means of contacting each other.

as for the record itself, its becoming quite rare, yes, and its long deleted. i myself dont have a copy either but the official underworld forums cannot be a trading place for Underworld recordings. Who knows what will happen in the future? They could be re-released or on new compilations or a box set and trading here commercially released material here may impact future sales.

[lloyd]

http://cgi.ebay.nl/underworld-mmm-sk...QQcmdZViewItem

happy hunting lads

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by stimpee

the principle is that we do not discuss the trading of commercially released material. period. long deleted, rare, whatever. otherwise, where do you draw the line? you have to define which records are rare, and which records are ok to copy and which ones not. im not singling out this or any particular record. its just easier this way.

if you really wish to trade mp3s of Underworld stuff, then I cant stop you. there are other means of contacting each other.

as for the record itself, its becoming quite rare, yes, and its long deleted. i myself dont have a copy either but the official underworld forums cannot be a trading place for Underworld recordings. Who knows what will happen in the future? They could be re-released or on new compilations or a box set and trading here commercially released material here may impact future sales.

how about we draw the line at what is currently still in production/on shelves in music stores?
if it's available as a legal download online, or available directly from the record company, we don't go there. but if it's out of print, we can talk about mp3s.

[*_*]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

how about we draw the line at what is currently still in production/on shelves in music stores?
if it's available as a legal download online, or available directly from the record company, we don't go there. but if it's out of print, we can talk about mp3s.

lemme see if i can guess stimpee's response; nope, sorry.

fwiw, it took me about five years to track down the M.E./Hump 12''. it's so worth the effort to track rare stuff down, or trade for it as the case may be.

as has already been mentioned, all this talk really should be over at RTSR.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by *_*

as has already been mentioned, all this talk really should be over at RTSR.

Having not been on RTSR in about 5 years, I may be wrong here, but doesn't RTSR also not deal in trades of official releases? Like I say, maybe I'm wrong. Plus, I fail to see how it's OK to talk about downloading material within the headset form, but not about downloading a rare UW b-side in here. Am I being over-sensitive or is this a double-standard? Get that fucking mod-hammer on the go stimpee.

[mkb]

ok people,

dirty has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER looked kindly upon discussion of underworld downloads, mainly out of respect for the fact that underworld is part of dirty and talking about snagging their stuff for free is a bit rude.

rtsr has official releases for download, but rtsr isn't dirty.org