Tonite's broadcast - London Part 2 Oct 18

[aaron5000]

Wait, are the vids for purchase or just the audio from the shows?

[dubnobasswithme]

Originally Posted by aaron5000

Wait, are the vids for purchase or just the audio from the shows?

just the audio from the shows.

while the underworld team records every show with video cameras, i don't think that it's the sort of thing that will be made public (at least not the entire show in video format).

[TheBang]

well, they post some of the videos online in the Member section, but they're usually small size (about 320x240).

[aaron5000]

Well has anyone recorded the vids from the last two live webcasts? I really want to see them.

[stimpee]

Originally Posted by aaron5000

Well has anyone recorded the vids from the last two live webcasts? I really want to see them.

Bootleg distribution and discussions take place over at RTSR. Please make your requests over there.

[King of Snake]

my pictures from both gigs are up at my flickr page now.
Was right up at the front on thursday so got some great pics there.

[BeautifulBurnout]

Originally Posted by stimpee

Bootleg distribution and discussions take place over at RTSR. Please make your requests over there.

Thread Precis

Dirt 1: "Wow what a fantastic show"
Lots of Dirts: "Yeah"
Dirt 2: "Really great huh? Here are some photos"
Lots of Dirts: "Yeah wow thanks!"
Dirt 3: "Hey, I have even managed to grab a couple of chunks from the official stream!" *
Lots of Dirts: "Wow that's really great! Thanks for those, man!"
Dirt 4: "Hey these are really cool - are we able to get any more of these?"
UberModeratur: "STOP ALL DISCUSSION NOW - ZIS IS NOT DE PLACE FOR DER DISCUSSIONING"

For goodness' sake, put the jackboots away, Stimps! This was streamed free to the world! How on EARTH do you expect people not to talk about, and exchange clips from, this on here?

Maybe it is time for an open discussion about what does and does not qualify as a relevant topic on the UW fo.... but my understanding (and I think the majority of the people around here would concur with it) is that we don't discuss/condone/encourage ripping off the band through distributing commercial product. Anything else can be (and ought to be) discussed here if that is what people want. Otherwise, if we are to follow this extremist logic, people could no longer post YouTubes or photos from gigs either.

RTSR exists for the free trade of fan recordings. It is complementary to Dirty/DarkTrain.org, not a substitute for it.

There is doing the right thing - and stopping people from posting about ripping and exchanging officially-recorded material is absolutely the right thing to do.

Then there is over-zealousness, and this falls into that category, imo and just causes confusion. Ultimately, it may lead to alienation of Dirts who a) don't know what the precises "rules" are because they aren't written anywhere and appear arbitrary at best; and b) get fed up of being told off (and I used that term advisedly in view of the tone taken sometimes) when effectively they are just following the logic of a thread and haven't said or done anything wrong.



*i.e. not bootleg

[King of Snake]

agreed. This was officially broadcast trough underworldlive and darktrain.org is the "official" message board. I don't see how posting parts of this broadcast is any different from people posting direct links to the various bits of music being posted as streams on underworldlive.

[aaron5000]

Originally Posted by stimpee

Bootleg distribution and discussions take place over at RTSR. Please make your requests over there.

How is it bootleg distribution? It was a stream that was linked on underworld live. Does this mean that links to autotrader and/or phonestrap should only be linked at rtsr as well?

The webcast is faaaaaar from being a bootleg.

[Jan]

Originally Posted by aaron5000

The webcast is faaaaaar from being a bootleg.

Come on, you seriously don't espect links to the whole stream here on this public forum!
If Underworld wanted to make the stream available to download they would have made recording a lot easier don't you think? Instead, they used a Quicktime stream that is almost impossible to record. Just because something is streamed freely to the would doesn't mean we can do with it whatever we want! A recording of the official stream is definately a bootleg, even if this might seem contradictory. When you look at Autotrader etc., the link is freely visible in the source code and I don't think UW would have something against downloading those little bits.
It's all about the artist's intent, although we can only guess as UW never stated directly what's okay (however, they tolerate RTSR if I remember correctly).
Does dirty forum need rules? Shouldn't we just use our common sense?
IMO links to one or two songs, Youtube vids etc. are okay, but we have to draw the line somewhere.

BeautifulBurnout: aaron has asked for the whole recordings, not just clips! There is no "over-zealousness" from Stimpee when he says that that's not okay.