Tracklisting Of Tokyo Gig

[big screen satellite]

seriously, is this the original version being resold???....bonkers...i suspect he will sell it again though...




Anyway, I have an original copy, but i'm not sharing it because i believe that would be wrong - especially as the CD states all copyright details...(and i'm selfishly glad i have an original copy ) and i'd never sell my copy, as its part of my collection (mp3, and digital files mean nothing to me)

i wouldn't share AHDO or DUBNO, and likewise won't be sharing this....

its a fairly large pressed release (7000+ copies?), albeit available only in another country, with stipulations on buying it, but nonetheless, thems were the rules...

UW have released specific albums with extras all over the world, and the stipulation of those are that you kinda need to be in that country to buy it....(or fork out and import it) - i know this album wasn't on general sale, but thems the breaks...take it or leave it...

I want the Tomato / Underworld created PS2 'game' WISP, but haven't managed to buy it yet, mainly because it wasn't released in the UK (i know i can get it and probably will do at some point), and I was fairly annoyed that we didn't see it here, likewise the Japan Only DVD edition of 1992-2002, but we have to accept these conditions - UW operate in different markets all over the world, and we have to accept their 'marketing' decisions, and stop whining about it...there really is not a lot we can do - as we've moaned about 'foriegn' releases before, and our complains have never really been heeded (US BF Singles Box Set) (Aus AHDO Edition) (Logic 3 x 12" PG & BS) (there are loads of examples of county only releases in limited quantites)

someone will certainly break the copy rules on this release, and it will turn up as a version direct from the disc, but i think that's up to the individual sharing it, after all sharing 'copyright' material i still illegal, despite everyone knowingly doing it or leeching stuff from P2P sites...

Being as this is a pretty loyal and important forum, linked to from UW's main website - i think we should be a bit more respectful to the laws of copyright

i think if you want to offer up opinions on the release of this we should be free to do so, but blatantly offering up links to sites or copying this disc and sharing the information here kind of goes against the 'ethics' of this entire forum....just my opinion, but i think thats how it should be.

Mattval1

[potatobroth]

he'll make his money back. and it sucks.

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

someone will certainly break the copy rules on this release, and it will turn up as a version direct from the disc, but i think that's up to the individual sharing it, after all sharing 'copyright' material i still illegal, despite everyone knowingly doing it or leeching stuff from P2P sites...

Being as this is a pretty loyal and important forum, linked to from UW's main website - i think we should be a bit more respectful to the laws of copyright

my guess is that it says, "not for resale" on it as well :P

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

my guess is that it says, "not for resale" on it as well :P

besides the graphics / fonts - it actually says the following on all three discs:

(p)&(c) 2005 underworldlive.com (t/a smith hyde productions).
the copyright in the sound recordings are owned by smith hyde productions.
this label copy is the subject to copyright protection and is owned by smith hyde productions. all rights reserved.
all rights of the producers and the owner of the recorded work reserved.
unauthorised copying, hiring, renting, public perfomance and broadcasting of this record prohibited.
all songs written by underworld and published by sherlock holmes music ltd / chrysalis music inc.

which is pretty much standard for all commercially available materials

we should take note of the part that says unauthorised - which basically means if you want to copy, play, broadcast this disc - you need to seek authority and that it appears would be smith hyde productions...

so if you wanna publish this, best speak to the head men...

its not a promotional item and hence cannot be labelled with 'not for resale' because the item had to be purchased - and as such is owned by the buyer who within the realms outside of what is listed on the disc - can basically do what they like with it, this is unlike most promotional items which are sent out free and are usually as stated as the 'property of <the record company>' and as such they could request the 'promo' to be returned at any time...

promo items are considered the property of the company that produces them if it is stated on the disc / vinyl....

[thee carp dreamer]

p.s. i've heard this performance for the first time today. it's amazing. it's wonderful. it's their best show. it has more improvs than the european club gig.



i will be a happy man when underworld come for a uk tour.

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by thee carp dreamer

p.s. i've heard this performance for the first time today. it's amazing. it's wonderful. it's their best show. it has more improvs than the european club gig.

certainly an amazing set, no doubt. i love the flow, reminds me of the old dazzer days.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

certainly an amazing set, no doubt. i love the flow, reminds me of the old dazzer days.

as opposed to the 'new' dazza days...

i've just been listeing to this in the car...the mixing / production is amazing - like you say the flow is great (wonder if it was polished post gig a bit?)

[potatobroth]

Originally Posted by big screen satellite

as opposed to the 'new' dazza days...

i've just been listeing to this in the car...the mixing / production is amazing - like you say the flow is great (wonder if it was polished post gig a bit?)

sound levels maybe, but i dont think any mixing was done after the fact like on Everything Everything. For EE, the songs were taken from three separate shows, so mixing was a must, but Electraglide was taken from one straight show so it was mixed live is my guess.

Nothing too complicated being done yet it sounds amazing. Just an extra set of hands can really help in that dept. i think.

The mix from JAL -> Skyscraper -> Kittens -> Morrocan Meatballs -> Juanita is VERY nice.

[big screen satellite]

Originally Posted by potatobroth

The mix from JAL -> Skyscraper -> Kittens -> Morrocan Meatballs -> Juanita is VERY nice.

THAT was the bit i was listening to today...i'd have never have thought of bringing Kittens into Skyscraper...but it works brilliantly...

[Future Proof]

So, let me get my facts straight here, UW sells for 2 nights in friggin JAPAN a deck recording of a show of theirs? And doesn't put it on uwlive for a pay d/l? Doesn't mention anything along the lines of it soon being available for pay d/l? Uhm... excuse the fuck out of me but, if any sanctimonious sheep here is going to toot the "Well R&K aren't to be ripped off" when they know fucking well that the $10 cd is going to sell for $50 on EBay because of profiteering, then you need to pull your head out of your ass and figure out who's side you're on, R&K's who we know are damn fine off financially or the people that've had their backs for years, who do NOT have the money they do, and don't deserve a 3-choice option of A.) Fly to Japan, B.) Get ripped off on EBay or C.) don't hear it at all.

Awww fuck it, I choose D. And option D. would be to download this illegally, therefore prohibiting R&K from making anything from the sale. However if they would like, they could send me their address and maybe I'll mail them a pic of my ass.

There is nothing any of you can say of any counterpoint, having an easy point-of-access to sell music is why uwlive.com is up -- this idea to release this 7,000 run album was a bad idea because it alienates people that have hard jobs and can't just decide they're flying to fucking JAPAN -- and it's quite obvious that R&K don't really care if they piss anyone off.

So, maybe the forum isn't the place to share this "release", HOWEVER... if anyone wants to become my pen pal, my e-mail is producer9k2k5@yahoo.com -- write anytime.